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Subj: Re: Al Ewing's run ultimately made me realize how much I miss Greg Pak.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 at 01:18:37 pm EST (Viewed 104 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Al Ewing's run ultimately made me realize how much I miss Greg Pak.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 at 12:34:18 pm EST (Viewed 139 times)
Quote:I was the one to first state that the terminology is the same in comics and the real world, it's just that the comics fictionalize the effects.Although MC fictionalize the effects of these energies, the name term "cosmic" is based on the dictionary definition. Marvel tends to use real world scientific terms, whereas DC was the company that came up with its own fictional energy sources.
The point I was making wasn't geared towards Ewing only, but Marvel in general. Cosmic on a real world scientific level does not trump Gamma in terms of energy output, as the two clips I posted above show. It's just weird Science writers come up with. Gamma is just a more powerful force than anything known.
Quote:I'll look into Kubik in terms of his power being unlimited. Here's Stan Lee and John Romita Jr speaking on how Hulk's power works. This is Marvel comics Gamma power, not cosmic.
Quote:See the thing is the word cosmic is hundreds of years old with etymological roots tracing back millennia to ancient Greek.
Hess called his discovery “cosmic rays” because of the dictionary definition of cosmic which already existed.
Cosmic rays didn’t define the word cosmic, cosmic rays were called cosmic rays because they were of the cosmos as opposed to of the earth.
Again, you are the one that bought up the fact that in 1912 Victor Hess coined the term "Cosmic rays". I'm simply saying cosmic by definition means the universe. In said universe i.e. cosmos there are many Ray's, gamma Ray's are the highest form of them
Quote:What I’m saying is that “cosmic” in Marvel is largely used in the classical sense and not always (or even usually) referring specifically to cosmic rays.
Yes they are. In most of the comics, cosmic and gamma Ray's pose the same threat to everyone as they do in the real world. The results are only fictionalized to a minor few characters giving them super powers.
Quote:You keep sticking on this comparison between cosmic and gamma rays but I’m arguing that “cosmic” has a larger and older meaning than cosmic rays specifically.
Marvel writers know this and use the term accordingly.
True, the term cosmic is older than gamma in terms of Ray's, but the point I'm making is that gamma is more powerful force. That's regardless to when it was discovered.
Quote:Power Cosmic - cosmic is being used in the classical sense
Cosmic entity/being - cosmic is being used in the classical sense
Fantastic Four’s original cosmic rays - is referring to actual cosmic rays
Quote:Just for reference:
cos·mic | \ ˈkäz-mik
Quote:Definition of cosmic
1. a: of or relating to the cosmos, the extraterrestrial vastness, or the universe in contrast to the earth alone
b: of, relating to, or concerned with abstract spiritual or metaphysical ideas
Quote:2. characterized by greatness especially in extent, intensity, or comprehensiveness
a cosmic thinker
a book of cosmic significance
the power cosmic
Gamma by science today is listed by as being the most powerful form of cosmic rays. The fact just is gamma is the superior force.
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