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Immodicus

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Gamma Ra

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Subj: Re: Hulk #1 [edit]
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 at 08:57:12 am EST (Viewed 224 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Hulk #1 [edit]
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 at 03:16:52 pm EST (Viewed 264 times)



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        After the fourth reading, I must say, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and new direction. Cates has me more interested in the character than I've been in a while. Ryan Ottley's art adds a nice touch. A little cartoony at times, but his Hulk looks powerful and explodes off the page. His Hulk is as dynamic looking as Sal Buscema's.

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          Question - Anyone else think that since gamma is both science and magic; as stated in Al Ewing's run; Banner used his own gamma mind to create that palace in his head? I believe he is no longer being reactive, but proactive by learning how to use his gammafied body.

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            Also, does everyone realize we were watching Banner-Hulk i.e. Banner in control of Hulk's body in that issue?

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        I wouldn't base any theories for Cates run on previously established continuity.
        Cates pretty consistently shows a flagrant disregard for previously established canon and verisimilitude in general.



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    I'm not sure about that, but someone from another board posted this clip wherein Donny Cates says he hasn't erased anything from Al Ewing's run. So that kills your argument. He's only moved the story forward with a few in story character changes. Case Closed!!!



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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvfT9oQe-g4&t=145s



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    FYI - It was Peter David that first suggested Hulk had the "Air of the Mystic" surrounding him. Hulk and Impossible acts may be linked to alternate reality Hulk's and Puck's gamma statements.


Kills my argument? LOL
That's a statement designed to keep Ewing fans onboard.
Good business, also erasing doesn't preclude overlooking or ignoring.
Meanwhile Cates entire Marvel back catalog clearly supports my argument.

I'll go ahead a predict how Cates' Hulk run plays out.

First 6 issues (or first arc) - He'll come up with a few idea kernels that seem potentially promising.
He'll give Hulk 1 or 2 insane feats to whet the fanboy appetites.
Those idea kernels will not be fleshed out in a logically consistent or satisfying way.
Fandom slowly becomes divided, fans that like the power fantasy overlook the underlying flaws of plot and characterization.
This arc will bee the least decompressed (though still decompressed) then overly compressed in the last issue of the arc.
The Hook...

Issues 6-12 (or second arc) - He'll find an old Hulk plot point an attempt to really deconstruct the character in way he thinks is clever.
If you're an old school Hulk fan this is where your doubt creeps in as the feat high begins to wear off.
Action will be less this arc, he'll likely begin to focus on secondary characters as much as the Hulk.
But you'll probably stick with it hoping for another insane feat
The Line...

Issues 12+ (or third arc) - This is where even more severe decompression begins. This is where Cates will try to really put his own unique stamp on the character -- canon and internal consistency be damned. My guess it will be a take that casts Banner in a terrible light and has long term implications that won't sit will with a high percentage of old school Hulk fans.
The Sinker...

Have fun, I won't be reading it unless its bootleg






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