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Subj: Re: Mandarin stories should begin with the premise that he's already won
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 at 05:45:58 pm EST (Viewed 195 times)
Reply Subj: Mandarin stories should begin with the premise that he's already won
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 at 05:08:21 pm EST (Viewed 201 times)

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The Mandarin shouldn't need to conquer the world. The Mandarin won a long time ago. Thanks to things like Citizens United legalizing bribery, and gerrymandering allowing the control of state politics simply by corrupting the leadership of the one dominate party in each state, the Mandarin should have won via bribery and corruption a long time ago. The Mandarin should be the reason why laws with even 90% approval don't get passed when they conflict with the desires of rich corporations.

As such, trying to conquer the world outright should be portrayed as just a minor hobby of his. He already rules the world in every way that matters. Attempting to get that last little dollop of power via conquest is just for funsies.

Furthermore, since he's been at that hobby a long time, maybe it's time he got bored with it, and switched to hurting Stark in small, personal, disturbing ways. Creepy things, like stealing the ghostbuster gizmo Stark invented for the Nightstalkers, and modifying it to torture ghosts. And then digging up Howard Stark's bones, summoning his spirit, and torturing Howard Stark via technology stolen from Tony Stark.

I like the perspective that the Mandarin has already won, but not in the particular ways you describe, which frankly just aren't fun.

I would present the Mandarin as having already won in the sense that he has already conquered in four areas:

1. He is unquestionably the world's greatest martial artist. He can fight Iron Man with his bare hands. 'Nuff said.

2. He can be presented as the supreme financial oligarch of the planet. I don't think he has quite been presented precisely like that, but Marvel has come pretty close. I would take it to the extreme and be explicit about it.

3. He can be presented as the supreme master of Chinese mystical arts. Again, I don't think he has been presented precisely like that, but he has been involved with mystical artifacts and such. I would take it to the extreme and be explicit about it.

4. He can be presented as the supreme master of Chinese military strategy. Take it to the extreme and be explicit about it.

Present it that he is already at the top. He is already the best.

Now imagine this beast coming after Tony.






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