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Subj: Re: also we're glossing over something
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 at 09:30:20 pm EST (Viewed 275 times)
Reply Subj: Re: also we're glossing over something
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 at 04:49:42 pm EST (Viewed 262 times)


    Do you know what a 'Mary Sue' is?

Yes. Is that why Mystery Man (and I guess you) hate her? She's too competent, attractive, and popular?

While I know what a Mary Sue is, I don't relate to people's reactions to a Mary Sue. I love characters who are outrageously good at what they do, attractive, and popular. An incompetent, funny-looking, and unpopular character would be depressing to read about. Hmm. I guess incompetent, funny-looking, and popular would be OK. (Jughead.) Incompetent, drop dead gorgeous, and unpopular would be unrealistic. (Drop dead gorgeous equals popular regardless of competence. Hey, we're apes.) Super-competent, funny-looking, and unpopular would make for a lot of angst but could work if the character has at least one friend and actually accomplishes very important things and demonstrates terrific nobility.

But competent, attractive, and popular is my favorite. Steve Rogers, for example. Tony Stark also. Thor.

Wait - how about two out of the three desirable states of being? Let's see. Incompetent, gorgeous, popular. Not a good protagonist but possibly a good antagonist. Competent, gorgeous, unpopular. Unrealistic. Competent, funny-looking, popular. Definitely could work as a protagonist.

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