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Zeroun

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BlakGard

Subj: Re: I think it has to do with Superman being Super and Batman being a man...
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 01:17:24 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: I think it has to do with Superman being Super and Batman being a man...
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 02:12:43 am EST

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> > Yes, well, in my opinion, to have such a moral code makes you morally unsound. There are many, many people that deserve nothing less than death, because even the fact that they exist is harmful to others.
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> And now for a paraprhased quote!
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> "There are many that live that deserve death, and there are many that die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be too quick to deal in death and judgement, for even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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> My opinion? No one person should ever be allowed to pass judgement on someone. Whether or not someone lives or dies in not your call. Especially in Superman's case. He's the most powerful being on that earth and is looked up to and idolized. If he starts to kill because *he* feels it's warranted, then that makes him no better than Luthor. The ends do not justify the means.

Seriously, that's bleeding-heart claptrap. Each of us, as a part of society, has the duty to take lives to protect lives. Killing is not bad, in and of itself, it's the reason why that determines that. Killing a villain to prevent countless future deaths is immensely better than Luthor... or Joker... or whomever.
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> Seriously, that's bleeding-heart claptrap. Each of us, as a part of society, has the duty to take lives to protect lives.

Quotes are fun!
"Fighting for peace is like having sex for virginity."

Sorry, had to be said. However, had you read what I wrote thoroughly, you'll note that I said that the choice should be no one persons choice, at least in the sense of passing judgement. If it's in self defense that's a different case alltogether...If there is no other option. If some guy has you pinned down and is going to kill you you could A) Kill him first or B) disable him in some way. Knee him in the balls punch him into unconciousness, whatever.

>Killing is not bad, in and of itself,

lol that's priceless

>it's the reason why that determines that.

I'm not tottally disagreeing with that. As I said, it should never be in no one persons hands to do so. I apologize for any confusion or misconceptions.

>Killing a villain to prevent countless future deaths is immensely better than Luthor... or Joker... or whomever.

Once again it would seem I wasn't clear. I was speaking in context to a character who stands for something and a hero who had sworn an oath to never fight by the rules that created him.

In the real world Luthor and the Joker should be tried and convicted by jury. Now if some yahoo vigilante goes and offs either one of them it would probably slide, but then other vigilantes would say "Hey! They can do it, why can't I?" and over time you have people handing out what they feel is an appropriate death warrant.

Death as a punishment is not one persons choice. Death as a matter of defense can be.

As for Wonder Woman and Maxwell Lord's predicament, that was such a grandoise and unbelievably dangerous situation that there probably was no other choice.