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Zeroun

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AskaniGrey

Subj: Re: I think it has to do with Superman being Super and Batman being a man...
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 06:18:04 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: I think it has to do with Superman being Super and Batman being a man...
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 01:20:53 pm EST

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> > So you admit there are instances when it can't be avoided if you want to keep the people safe.
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> Yes. But I views those situations as beyond dire.


How often would you say the League deals in beyond dire situations? It's just about everytime there's a signal on the moon, otherwise people might just call the cops. Obviously, they are the last line of defense in the DC Universe and should be trying to eradicate threats rather than doin the paliative care for the planet they're used to.

That's why Manchester Black's Elite was on the right path for a second, they just went about it too callously. They had no concern for collateral damage. Superman went after them with his usual kid glove efforts and could've very easily lost Lois and had his identity revealed to Luthor as a result.

Bottom line, real-life human law enforcers use lethal force everyday to protect the innocent from the bloodthirsty and maniacal. When it happens, they have to prove there was no other choice and the action was committed in the best interest of the greater good. I would expect no less from Superman.

Now, if you wanna admit his no killing policy makes it easy on writers, I can understand and yield to that.

> How often would you say the League deals in beyond dire situations? It's just about everytime there's a signal on the moon, otherwise people might just call the cops. Obviously, they are the last line of defense in the DC Universe and should be trying to eradicate threats rather than doin the paliative care for the planet they're used to.

Realistically their the first line of defense. If Amazo starts tearing through New York you can bet your boots that the League is on the top of the "Cry for help" list, not the cops. ;\-\)

> That's why Manchester Black's Elite was on the right path for a second, they just went about it too callously. They had no concern for collateral damage. Superman went after them with his usual kid glove efforts and could've very easily lost Lois and had his identity revealed to Luthor as a result.

Kid glove tactics? If I recall correctly Superman trumped them all single handedly, without getting all "wish washy". But perhaps my memory is addeled, though I doubt it.

> Bottom line, real-life human law enforcers use lethal force everyday to protect the innocent from the bloodthirsty and maniacal. When it happens, they have to prove there was no other choice and the action was committed in the best interest of the greater good. I would expect no less from Superman.

Whereas I would expect more. See, to me, what makes these superheroes so super and heroic is that they get thrown into situations far worse than a cop is, yet they can still save the day without having to 86 every guy who is trying to make a name for himself. Besides, a heroes job isn't judge, jury and executioner. They protect people by besting and apprehending criminals and handing them over to the authorties. When the criminals are not tried and convicted accordingly by the courts (i.e. the Joker) then it's not the heroes fault, but the systems. This issue is tackled in Batman Begins, rather well I might add.

> Now, if you wanna admit his no killing policy makes it easy on writers, I can understand and yield to that.

No, I do not want to admit to that as it makes no sense. If anything the no kill policy makes it harder on writers. It takes hard work to point out that our heroes don't need to be killers to be effective.

Besides, I don't think there is such a policy. This is a character thing. Superman doesn't kill and neither does Batman and a host of of others. If you want to read that brand of justice I'd suggest picking up the Punisher. I'm not a find of that kinda story but I thought to last issue was pretty neat.