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Omar Karindu

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TJ Burns

Subj: Re: The 13 [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 12:39:12 pm EST (Viewed 3 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The 13 [SPOILERS]
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 05:48:30 pm EST

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> > Ah, but apparently Reddy's always in the same body, which Swampy isn't, which makes the rules fit.
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> That isn't his original body anymore. But a shell recreated by Firestorm and destroyed again during IC and 52. But okay, he doesn't switch his shell as otften as Swampy. Still as air-elemental, he should be excluded. Same as Solomon Grundy, who is also a failed elemental.

As of the opening of this arc, the retcon wagon's struck. Meltzer has Batman make a huge point that the Tornado's body always repairs itself and his soul returns to the body. So apparently, we're left with Firestorm having helped the vaporized origninal body reconstruct itself in post-IC continuity back during Ostrander's run. We can't exclude Reddy... he's actually the only one other than Ivo we've had confirmed in the story arc!

> Madame Xanadu. Was her immortality ever explained? Don't think so.

Madame Xanadu's immortal? When did that happen? I've never seen a reference to her as immortal before, although I admit she's been off my radar since the mid 90s.


TJB

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> > > Ah, but apparently Reddy's always in the same body, which Swampy isn't, which makes the rules fit.
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> > That isn't his original body anymore. But a shell recreated by Firestorm and destroyed again during IC and 52. But okay, he doesn't switch his shell as otften as Swampy. Still as air-elemental, he should be excluded. Same as Solomon Grundy, who is also a failed elemental.
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> As of the opening of this arc, the retcon wagon's struck. Meltzer has Batman make a huge point that the Tornado's body always repairs itself and his soul returns to the body. So apparently, we're left with Firestorm having helped the vaporized origninal body reconstruct itself in post-IC continuity back during Ostrander's run. We can't exclude Reddy... he's actually the only one other than Ivo we've had confirmed in the story arc!

If Ivo and his serum count, then surely General Immortus would as well.

Is anyone here also reminded of that Byrne Wonder Woman arc in which Morgaine Le Fay gathered the DCU's immortals as part of a scheme?

> > Madame Xanadu. Was her immortality ever explained? Don't think so.
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> Madame Xanadu's immortal? When did that happen? I've never seen a reference to her as immortal before, although I admit she's been off my radar since the mid 90s.
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> TJB

Doug Moench's Spectre series revealed that she had once cheated Death at cards, thereby winning immortality. John Ostrander ran with that idea, and it was a central plot point in the Underworld Unleashed issues of his Spectre title.

- Omar Karindu

"Brubaker and Phillips' CRIMINAL #1...is really ****ing good. I mean, REALLY ****ing good." -- Warren Ellis

"Brilliant. Another winner. Ed's at the top of his game and Sean's inventing new games to be on top of...I can't wait for more." -- Kurt Busiek

Read CRIMINAL by Brubaker and Phillips. Because it's that good.


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