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deke

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Omar Karindu

Subj: Agreed, but
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 at 12:51:26 pm EDT (Viewed 1 times)
Reply Subj: It's about how Pre-Crisis Superman worked....
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 at 10:55:49 am EDT (Viewed 1 times)

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His powers were, well, absolute as portrayed at the time, including his invulnerability. He might utter and "oof" or a "gasp" on rare occasions, but ostensibly he could. not. be. hurt.

Indeed, only two things could genuinely harm him: Kryptonite and magic. Anything else, no matter how objectively powerful, would so much as dent him. Planet-busting rays, ultra-nuclear bombs, black holes....nothing if it didn't have the words "Kryptonite" or "magic" in front of them.

Hal's beam? not Kryptonite, and not magic. And therefore, not harmful to Superman. Tomar-Re's "Kryptonite waves?" That hurts him. Seriously, a li'l feather coated in Kryptonite dust could cause him serious pain, and every H-bomb on Earth going off at once wouldn't tckle him a bit. That's the way it was then.

- Omar Karindu

"A Renoir. I have three, myself. I had four, but ordered one burned...It displeased me." -- Doctor Doom

"It's not, 'Oh, they killed Sue Dibney and I always loved that character,' it's 'Oh, they broke a story engine that could have told a thousand stories in order to publish a single 'important' one.'" -- John Seavey


> Hal's beam? not Kryptonite, and not magic. And therefore, not harmful to Superman. Tomar-Re's "Kryptonite waves?" That hurts him. Seriously, a li'l feather coated in Kryptonite dust could cause him serious pain, and every H-bomb on Earth going off at once wouldn't tckle him a bit. That's the way it was then.

AS far back as JLA #63 Hal couldn't whip up kryptonite to cool Kal..though writer Fox may have simply elided this point, I'm not sure. My larger point of course was that it was jarring to see Re take out Superman so easily--though he was exhausted from his wrestling with the Thanagarian ship, which I suppose has to be figured in.

> "It's not, 'Oh, they killed Sue Dibney and I always loved that character,' it's 'Oh, they broke a story engine that could have told a thousand stories in order to publish a single 'important' one.'" --

Sounds good, but let's be real: those Elongated Man stories were back-page filler. Fun, but minor, and Sue was not really essential to Ralph solving the mystery. "Story engine" is way too grand for Sue's potential. I actually enjoyed "Identity Crisis"--yes, I'd have preferred Vicki Vale to be the victim, she being even less essential than Sue, but the story, and Arrow's narration therein, really was a valentine to the DC universe and certain characters in particular. And the love came from the house curmudgeon!!


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