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Chris

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Racer Cool

Subj: Re: No, but JLDetroit is the worst ever.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 04:28:51 pm EST
Reply Subj: No, but JLDetroit is the worst ever.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:59:44 pm EST

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> I was very disappointed with the Meltzer's run in this title. And the McDuffye's work is not better so far...

I have to disagree with you. Both Meltzer and McDuffie's runs are pretty good but they can't beat Grant Morrison's theratical run and the comedic antics of the Giffen/DeMatteis run.

The worst volume is the period of the JLDetroit era. DC made a bad decision to transform the World's Greatest Super-Heroes into a poor man's DC version of the X-Men. I left the series when Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash called it quits.

The second worst is the period post-Death of Superman. All three Justice League books at the time were splintered and lacked focus. Got even worse post-Zero Hour. I left the series after Dan Jurgen's run.

I'm satisified. Although, Meltzer's JLA reads way better as a graphic novel than a monthly comicbook series.

> > I was very disappointed with the Meltzer's run in this title. And the McDuffye's work is not better so far...
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> I have to disagree with you. Both Meltzer and McDuffie's runs are pretty good but they can't beat Grant Morrison's theratical run and the comedic antics of the Giffen/DeMatteis run.
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> The worst volume is the period of the JLDetroit era. DC made a bad decision to transform the World's Greatest Super-Heroes into a poor man's DC version of the X-Men. I left the series when Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash called it quits.
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> The second worst is the period post-Death of Superman. All three Justice League books at the time were splintered and lacked focus. Got even worse post-Zero Hour. I left the series after Dan Jurgen's run.
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> I'm satisified. Although, Meltzer's JLA reads way better as a graphic novel than a monthly comicbook series.


I think it's better and easier to state what was the best run of the series....that's easy! The original series, from it's inception in Brave and the Bold #28, late 1959, thru to the end of the Satellite era in 1984, JLA vol. 1 Annual 2. Everything since then has been a pale imitation. The Giffen/Demattis run started off pretty well...a return to being "the world's greatest super heroes", but quickly big guns were removed (suprisingly they took out Capt. Marvel, Dr.Fate, Capt.Atom, Dr.Light, Black Canary, Mr. Miracle) and we got Booster Gold, Fire and Ice and the stupid non-stop humor. Then there were the years of the late 80's and early 90's with 3 or 4 titles and lack of focus, The new book with Morrison....it was too slick and superficial. Boring stuff ( I loved his quirky Doom Patrol stories....his JLA never worked for me)...the boring post Morrison run of the title, and the truly horrendous work of Meltzer. He did more to ruin the title than almost anyone (I HATE Identity Crisis and how it retroactively turned the JLA into amoral hypocrites, and based on the general poor reviews I've read/heard of on the new title I'm happy I never picked it up!)JLDetroit.....it brought an end to "world's greatest heroes"...but at least Gerry Conway tried to make it work....I give him credit for having the balls to stick with it for what, 3 years.....whether it was his doing or DC's editorial dictatorial decision (a lot was going on with most of the old characters in their solo books and mini series at the time)...they tried to follow Avengers#16/Stan Lee's lead when he was turning the Avengers from a JLA clone into a FF clone. Steel, and Vixen were cool, Gypsy had some promise (if used properly), Vibe even could've been used if it wasn't for the stupid racial cliches.....but not at the expense of the de-powering they went thru. However, it pales in comparison to the moral decline the series went thru when Meltzer decided to bring the questionable ethics/morals retroactively into the JLA's history. What is heroic about the book any more. I'd rather read old back issues than by any of the new crap.