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Subj: Re: So When\Why Did They Revert Back To Villiany? Thanks. NT
Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:32:12 am CDT
Reply Subj: Re: So When\Why Did They Revert Back To Villiany? Thanks. NT
Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 at 09:55:07 am CDT

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> > Can anyone help me out here? What issues did
> >
> > # Proessor Ivo and T.O Morrow reform from villany, befriend the JLA, and end up as Skid Row alcoholics?
> This didn't happen simultaneously. T.O. Morrow showed up drunk to warn Max Lord about the second coming of the Overmaster, which his future-tuned mind knew was coming at which point Max gave him a couple of bucks to shut him up and tossed him back out onto the street and then proceeded to not tell the JLA about until after Desaad showed up to deliver the same warning to the JLE. Ivo DIDN'T actually do the alcoholic turn until he teamed up with Morrow in JLA (Morrison run) #5, but he did reform after Ice cured him with Guy Gardner's ring in a Justice League Quarterly issue. Issue numbers for either totally escape me, and my JLI issues from that era are in storage.
> Interestingly, Amos Fortune ALSO turned up as a skid row drunk in JLE not long before T.O. Morrow's appearance. His came from good old fashioned bad luck until he pulled a typical scheme of his to get back on top, that ended up causing a Chaos Theory amount of catastrophy to others near him.
> > # The Red Tornado died originally didn't he? Was he created to die, and then brought back?
> Yeah, in his first appearance, basically.
> > # The Key go into a coma before his appearance in Grant Morrison's JLA run?
> Not on panel, he doesn't. \:\) The coma explains why he hadn't showed up for years, and to explain his new powers in that issue.

Morrow was never not a villain... the fact that he'd taken to drinking heavily after basically seeing the world destroyed in a vision still didn't push him toward doing anything himself to stop it, other than warn the League once, and not trying any more after it became clear no one was taking him seriously. In fact, he's seen standing by during the denoument of the overarching story arc basically saying, "I told you so." (Hanging out with Desaad at the time, actually...) At no time did he do anything more heroic than Desaad did in the same arc. \:\) So it was no surprise to see him, still drinking, in his next appearance as a villain again for the same reason he always had been... pushing the envelope of science.

Ivo's more complicated. He willingly went to prison at the end of the Quarterly story, since, well, he DID kill a whole lot of people in the final days of the Detroit League, and had performed several kidnappings in this issue, trying to find someone powerful enough to kill him. He even willed the League his android-populated city as training ground for the Martian Manhunter's Justice League Task Force. However, by JLA #5, his fear of death had pushed him to retry the immortality serum again, and, predictably, that resulted in his mutation into a monstrous form and resultant loss of sanity. It didn't hurt that Morrow and he had become friends in the interval, and he'd taken up drinking alongside his friend.


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