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Hatman

In Reply To
Gernot

Subj: Disagree
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 11:49:47 am EDT
Reply Subj: Opinions Wanted!
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 09:53:43 am EDT

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Do you like the idea of the JLA being an all-encompassing army, or would you rather it be the elite of superheroes, with those who've proven themselves?

Should ANY writer be able to come up with a brand-new character with the idea of having him/her join the League?

I feel the League should only have those who've proven themselves over the years, such as the heroes up until the Satellite Era had done. I always felt the Detroit League was a mistake, letting several unknowns join the League.

The League CAN be the size of an army, but only a limited number should be written into a case/storyline with any writer. I'd like the number of active Leagers limited to 12-15 members, at MOST. If a hero dies, let his/her slot remain open, unless a legacy character should come forward (Flash, Green Lantern, etc.)

I don't really want to see Arsenal in the League (Green Arrow's still alive!), nor do I want to see the original heroes retired so new blood can take their place(s).

I want the League to be formed of the "gods" of the DC Universe. If the writer wants to introduce a new character in the book, fine! LET the new character be introduced, then written OUT of the book when that particular story is over. They can come back once every three years or so. Any new hero can be made into an Honorary Member, but let standing Honoraries serve before said new hero comes back.

Heroes I DON'T want in the League:

Vixen
Arsenal
Geo-Force
Black Lightning (honorary membership is okay)
Heroes created in the book (let them be established, and in a few years we'll talk.) \:\)

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> Do you like the idea of the JLA being an all-encompassing army, or would you rather it be the elite of superheroes, with those who've proven themselves?
>

I like a mix, personally. It's the norm in fiction (not just comics, fiction in general) to have someone with a fresh perspective in the narrative; if there was never a rookie to the JLA, how would we ever get that? Even when Morrison wrote the Big 7, Green Lantern was the rookie.

> Should ANY writer be able to come up with a brand-new character with the idea of having him/her join the League?
>

While I normally agree that creating a character just to join the team doesn't always work (Maya, for example, or Triathlon in Aveners), I also have to think of a character like the Vision. He was created in the Avengers book, and became one of the characters most associated with the Avengers (I often think of him kind of like the J'onn J'onnz of the Avengers).

> I feel the League should only have those who've proven themselves over the years, such as the heroes up until the Satellite Era had done. I always felt the Detroit League was a mistake, letting several unknowns join the League.
>

Using this method, would we have ever gotten the Blue Beetle/Booster Gold dynamic that defined the Giffen era?

> The League CAN be the size of an army, but only a limited number should be written into a case/storyline with any writer. I'd like the number of active Leagers limited to 12-15 members, at MOST. If a hero dies, let his/her slot remain open, unless a legacy character should come forward (Flash, Green Lantern, etc.)
>

I liked how the Justice League cartoon handled things, actually. Focusing on specific characters for specific missions.

> I don't really want to see Arsenal in the League (Green Arrow's still alive!), nor do I want to see the original heroes retired so new blood can take their place(s).
>

But how do new characters grow if we the reader know they can never make to the big leagues? No matter what the Titans might accomplish they will never be regarded as the "big guns". I'd consider Nightwing, Cyborg, Donna Troy, and Arsenal for the Justice League over Maya and Blue Devil any day.

Arsenal in the league with Ollie alive actually works because Ollie thinks of Roy as his kid, and wants him to succeed. I think the name Red Arrow is stupid though. \:\)

> I want the League to be formed of the "gods" of the DC Universe. If the writer wants to introduce a new character in the book, fine! LET the new character be introduced, then written OUT of the book when that particular story is over. They can come back once every three years or so. Any new hero can be made into an Honorary Member, but let standing Honoraries serve before said new hero comes back.
>

As I said, I like a mix of big guns and second-tier heroes. Generally the "gods" of the DCU have their own books...where are we to read about characters who don't? Sure, there are other teams or solo books, but it helps a character's credibility and popularity more if they are/were a Justice Leaguer rather than a member of the Doom Patrol.

> Heroes I DON'T want in the League:
>
> Vixen
> Arsenal
> Geo-Force
> Black Lightning (honorary membership is okay)
> Heroes created in the book (let them be established, and in a few years we'll talk.) \:\)
>

Other than Aresenal I don't have a problem with that, though Black Lightning has been around for awhile and he's gotten a push in other books in the last few years.

~Hat~


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