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Grey Gargoyle

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emerick-man
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Subj: What a mess ...
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 at 10:06:47 am EST (Viewed 1285 times)
Reply Subj: What's up with HAWKMAN??!!
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 at 04:17:25 pm EST (Viewed 1614 times)

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LAST WEEK...

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    Hawkman (2018-) #7
    https://www.readdc.com/Hawkman-2018-7/digital-comic/T1830500075001
    The origin of Hawkman revealed! Rocketing across the cosmos in his newly re-covered spaceship, Carter Hall is en route to the next stop on his adventure through time and space. He doesn’t have Netflix to pass the time, but he does have something even better. Locked within the ship’s memory banks is the truth behind Carter Hall’s reincarnation ability, as well as his connection to the Deathbringers—giant, winged beings of immeasurable power on their way to destroy Earth!


So, they took a perfectly workable Ancient Egyptian reincarnation origin and remade it, for convoluting-reasons-no-doubt, then another writer did it again, then another writer, then again, and so on 'til this series. Now, appears it's still a reincarnation curse but Much more ancient in it's beginnings, much more cosmic, and much more solo(ie. no original female counterpart).

So, does that mean NOW the lineage of his incarnations listed on the attached page are in sequential order? Thangarian Ktar Deathbringer (aka Katar Hol??) is here and Carter Hall is gone? Would his stint in the DCU's Wild West Era be NOT in that list or part of the Earth Entry decades before Carter Hall's days?

AND NOW THIS WEEK...

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    Justice League (2018-) #14
    https://www.readdc.com/Justice-League-2018-14/digital-comic/T1878400145001
    Let’s take a trip to “Hawkworld” in part one of a new Totality-related storyline! Martian Manhunter, John Stewart and Hawkgirl avoided “Drowned Earth” with a detour to Thanagar-Prime: J’onn looks to tap into the ancient Martian mental database, GL struggles while practicing his new UV powers, and Kendra searches for answers about her connection to the Totality.


We see (a very secretive) Shayera Hol and Kendra in the same place at the same time! What's up with that? Would it be fair to assume that either, both?, would be aware of the retconned Hawkman canon - as if it weren't a change at all from their POV? Has anyone read tweets or facebook confirmations of what DC has planned for the iconic Hawkman? Is this the first time in print he was referred to as THE SAVAGE Hawkman? This is definitely the first time Thanagar is revealed to be out of phase planet, right?

Any insight or speculation is appreciated. Are you enjoying all his timeline tweaking after 7 issues? Presumably he still has post-Rebirth ex-JLA status, eh?




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I like the concept but I am far from certain that I will like the climax & conclusion :

Hawkman & Hawkgirl are a spacetime anomaly because of Nth Metal.

That's what the Atom explained to Hawkman and it makes sense.

It explains why Hawkman & Hawkgirl were more affected by Crisis on Infinite Earths than any other heroes, it explains why there can be multiple Hawkmen & Hawkgirls in the Multiverse who are actually deeply interconnected to each others. It explains the multiple Hawks at the same time.

It has the merit to give Hawkman & Hawkgirl unique powers.
In a way, they are DC's "multiversal Highlanders".

Unfortunately, beyond that, I didn't like the next revelation : Hawkman would be guilty of a very old crime and would be reincarnated through space & time until he had made up for his crime. Hawkman would have been the leader of an old band of mass murderers named the Deathbringers. Hawkgirl would always appear at a specific time in the reincarnation cycle as part of the ritual to amend his crime.


IMO, after cleaning the mess, DC is adding anew a convoluted & unnecessary background to their character. I have a hard time to believe that Hawkman should be a reincarnated mass murderer. I don't like the idea.

At the same time, in the JLA book, there is yet a totally different story about the Thanagarian Hawkgirl actually being the "evil empress of Thanagar Prime", without any connection to what is happening in the other book.

Bravissimo, DC !
You managed to make Hawkman & Hawkgirl even more confusing in less than a month ... It is a new record.

During a few months, I believed that it would have been possible to clean all the mess about the Hawks, even though it seemed to be an impossible task ...
Well, let's forget about that ... \:\-\(



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