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Subj: Re: All Star Squadron question
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 at 10:34:03 pm EDT
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 at 08:37:45 am EDT

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> > Ok, I know they previewed All Star Squadron in JLOA 193...but was the preview ever printed elsewhere? Because I distinctly remember reading it, but I do not own JLOA 193.
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> Not that I know of.

I think it's interesting that, as TPB crazy as DC is, these stories have never been collected. I wonder if DC is doing what it can to sweep Roy Thomas's reworking of the Golden Age characters under the rug?

> > > Ok, I know they previewed All Star Squadron in JLOA 193...but was the preview ever printed elsewhere? Because I distinctly remember reading it, but I do not own JLOA 193.
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> > Not that I know of.
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> I think it's interesting that, as TPB crazy as DC is, these stories have never been collected. I wonder if DC is doing what it can to sweep Roy Thomas's reworking of the Golden Age characters under the rug?

Ok, call me kooky, but where did all the venom and hatred for Roy Thomas come from?? (As a matter of fact, I'm also shocked at the growing vocal dislike by certain areas of comic fandom and amongst the creators who argue against continuity....very strange as continuity is a key element to good comic stories I feel. I don't know where these views have come from....)I'm not saying that you dislike the man's work, but it seems by your comment, that there is some faction of comics fandom and/or "the powers that be" at the comic companies themselves that have a distaste for Rasically Roy's totally fantastic work.

I'm actually kind of shocked, because I think he was not only one of the best comic's creators of all time, but he also did wonders for DC's golden age/parallel earths stories and continuity.

The complaint that was alleged at the time, was that DC's multiverse was too difficult to follow....hence the decision to create Crisis on Infinite Earths. I honestly believe that this thought was misguided and untrue. The main problem DC had was that they kept everything they ever created, and had no centralized editorial group to try to keep track of everything....hence you had continuity gaffs all over the place. The only thing DC needed to do was a little clean up job, and to place 2 or 3 good editors in place to over see company/multiverse continuty on a regular basis. DC had 2 or 3 great staff in place that could have provided this help....Marv Wolfman, Bob Greenberger (i believe he was the researcher of all DC comics, to prepare for COIE and the Who's Who series), and Roy Thomas....I mean, in the 5 years leading up to COIE, Roy Thomas had already cleaned up so many loose ends of JSA continuity, and was doing so much with golden age/Earth-2/Earth-X continuity.....he was single-handedly cleaning up many of the problems that existed up through that point in time!!!

Why in the world would anyone want to sweep his work (as well as the rest of long standing DC continuity) under the rug?? This is what's wrong with comics today.....I have no problem with moving characters forward, and having them evolve in a natural way.....what I dislike is total disregard for what has come before to get you to where you are now. I don't even mind adding in things if it is to embellish or add to established stories, & as long as you're not destroying everything. Roy Thomas' work was exemplary, and is an example of the proper way to Retcon!!! I was a huge fan of All Star Squadron and thought it was one of the best written comics ever!

I don't think that Roy Thomas work is being swept away....I think the powers that be just have the misguided notion that it would be "too difficult" for new fans to understand. But that was the rub with the whole "the multiverse is too difficult" arguement.....i started reading comics in the 1970's.....comic books were around a long time by the time I started, and I didn't have a hard time understanding parallel universes or alternate time lines, or long running continuity (not to mention comics with high numbering....that to me, just meant the comic I picked up was good and had stood the test of time...), and none of my friends found any of this hard either. These were classic science fiction concepts, and added to DC's rich history, not hinder it (as many short sighted fans and comic creators wrongly argued.)


As to the original question, I'm not aware of any kind of reprint series of any of the All Star Squadron stories. I can only say, maybe the above correspondant did see, borrow or have a copy of JLA#193 and doesn't remember it?? Or perhaps, he had the preview taken out of the comic and handed to him (I know many a young comic reader who took the "preview pullout" literally and actually did carefully remove the preview to have as a separate comic in of itself.)





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