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Sam Hawkins

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Mikel Midnight

Subj: Re: Robin was still young in the 1980s....(an aside)
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 at 08:46:59 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Robin was still young in the 1980s....(an aside)
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 at 12:45:06 pm EDT

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> I don't think he had gray hair until INFINITY INC. As gorgeous as Ordway's art is, that series did a dis-service to the JSA in my eyes. I think to play up the age differences between the JSA and the kids, the JSA aged decades over night. Look at how young Johnny Thunder looked in JLA 194-197, pretty much the same age he did in the 40's and the rest of the JSA had the graying at the temples but otherwise not that old looking.

I know I'm in the minority, but I actually liked to see the characters look closer to their actual ages.

> But with INFINITY INC #1, the heroes all looked about 15-20 years older than their last appearance just a year or two earlier (Thunder looked like he aged about 30), Alan Scott's hair was receding when he last had a full headfull.

The revelation that he wore a toupee was one of my all-time favorite Alan Scott moments.

> And Robin who had always looked to be and was pretty much played as being physically around the age of the Earth-1 heroes, now had the wrinkles and gray hairs, looking to be about the same age as the rest of the JSA.

He was. When he started out, he was maybe 10 years younger than they were. When you're a preteen, that's a huge difference; fifty years later, not so much.

> > I don't think he had gray hair until INFINITY INC. As gorgeous as Ordway's art is, that series did a dis-service to the JSA in my eyes. I think to play up the age differences between the JSA and the kids, the JSA aged decades over night. Look at how young Johnny Thunder looked in JLA 194-197, pretty much the same age he did in the 40's and the rest of the JSA had the graying at the temples but otherwise not that old looking.
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> I know I'm in the minority, but I actually liked to see the characters look closer to their actual ages.

I don't know how much of a minority you're in, Mikel (Great site you have, BTW. One of my favorites). I like some visible age on them as well - though not so much that their heoric exploits look embarrassingly contrived - and the JSA was always the best vehicle around for exploring that angle. I remember an issue of Amazing Heroes in which Roy Thomas worked out the birthdates of the JSA. Once you do that, you really do need to deal with the age issue in depth, though it's understandable that companies would be reluctant to do so. But I have a feeling that there are lots of good stories yet to be done with "maturing" heroes.


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> > But with INFINITY INC #1, the heroes all looked about 15-20 years older than their last appearance just a year or two earlier (Thunder looked like he aged about 30), Alan Scott's hair was receding when he last had a full headfull.
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> The revelation that he wore a toupee was one of my all-time favorite Alan Scott moments.
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> > And Robin who had always looked to be and was pretty much played as being physically around the age of the Earth-1 heroes, now had the wrinkles and gray hairs, looking to be about the same age as the rest of the JSA.
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> He was. When he started out, he was maybe 10 years younger than they were. When you're a preteen, that's a huge difference; fifty years later, not so much.


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