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TJ Burns

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little kon-el

Subj: Re: Which JSA Member Know Batman's Secret Identity? Old Spoilers
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 02:12:59 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Which JSA Member Know Batman's Secret Identity? Old Spoilers
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 11:42:20 am EDT

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> > I'm not a JSA reader at all, although they do seem pretty cool. But I did look at the latest JLA\JSA Meltzer\Johns crossover, and Starman called Batman Bruce. So I assume that he knows. When did he find out, and do any other members know? Who? Thanks.
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> Starman probably learned it from a history book. I doubt Flash knows it but Gotham used to be Green Lantern's town so he and Bats are close enough to where he COULD know it, Mister Terrific is smart enough to figure it out, and Wildcat taught Bruce one way of fighting. Even if he's never said anything or acted on the info Wildcat HAS to know. Other than that, there's just Power Girl's inexplicable knowledge but that could come from her memories of her Earth-2 life and conversations with BFF Helena Wayne.
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Here's the Breakdown of JSA Members who know what's what:

1. Alan Scott/GL: Alan knows that Bruce is Batman. Most recently, he helped Bruce Wayne cover up his identity so that the DEO Agent Chase now think that Alan Scott is really Batman (something Chase has actually kept from her supervisors).

2. Jack Knight/Starman: Probably knows Bruce's identity from Alan Scott. They were pretty chummy in the Starman issue that you mentioned and I could easily see Alan Scott telling Ted that Batman=Bruce Wayne.

3. Power Girl: I'm sure she knows through her Earth 2 stuff.

4. Liberty Belle and Hourman: I don't think that they know that Bruce Wayne is Batman. They had no reason to know, but furthermore, it seems that Infinity Inc. didn't know who Bruce Wayne was (because Bones, one of their members, didn't recognize who Bruce Wayne as Batman in the Chase issue). Rick doesn't know. I don't think that Jesse knows, but I believe she could easily figure it out because she knows that Dick Grayson is Nightwing from her Titans tenure.

5. Flash/Jay Garrick: I think that Jay knows that Batman is Bruce Wayne. I believe this because of the Wally West connection. There would be no reason for Jay not to know that Batman is Bruce Wayne, but I also think there is no reason why he'd NEED to know that Batman is Bruce Wayne. I could chalk this up to "Jay knows because he talked to Alan Scott" sort of things.

6. Wildcat: Ted actually trained Batman, so I know that Ted Grant knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman.

7. Mr. Terrific: Michael probably knows that Batman = Bruce Wayne, but I think he respects Batman's privacy enough so as not to delve further into it. Michael is dating someone who knows that Bruce Wayne = Batman, but I don't think he's ever pressed the subject with her.

8. Stargirl: I think Stargirl could find out and I think that her stepdad probably knows that Bruce is Batman, but for now I think that she's in the dark about it until she has to know.

9. Cyclone: Cyclone probably doesn't know Bruce's identity.

10. Hawkman: Carter knows that Bruce is Batman because they've unmasked in front of eachother before when they worked in the JLA.

11. Obsidian: Todd probably doesn't know, if for the sheer fact that I'm sure the Infinity Inc kids don't know that Batman = Bruce Wayne.

12. Damage: He could find out because he was a titan that knew Dick Grayson = Nightwing, but I don't think that Grant put two and two together like Jesse would to find out Batman's secret.

13. Dr. Midnight: would probably be in the same camp at Mr. Terrific in that it would be none of his business and he would purposefully not look into the matter.

14. Jakeem: JT probably has figured it out during the JSA run when he went insane and trapped all the heroes. But I think that his thunderbolt may have wiped his mind clean of the incident.

- l.k.


> Here's the Breakdown of JSA Members who know what's what:
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> 1. Alan Scott/GL: Alan knows that Bruce is Batman. Most recently, he helped Bruce Wayne cover up his identity so that the DEO Agent Chase now think that Alan Scott is really Batman (something Chase has actually kept from her supervisors).

Agreed. Haven't we heard at one point that Bruce unmasked to Alan to confront him for leaving Gotham at one point?

> 2. Jack Knight/Starman: Probably knows Bruce's identity from Alan Scott. They were pretty chummy in the Starman issue that you mentioned and I could easily see Alan Scott telling Ted that Batman=Bruce Wayne.

It's possible, but I actually doubt Jack knows who Bruce is.

> 3. Power Girl: I'm sure she knows through her Earth 2 stuff.

How much of that does she remember? If the answer's "most of it", then yeah, definitely.

> 4. Liberty Belle and Hourman: I don't think that they know that Bruce Wayne is Batman. They had no reason to know, but furthermore, it seems that Infinity Inc. didn't know who Bruce Wayne was (because Bones, one of their members, didn't recognize who Bruce Wayne as Batman in the Chase issue). Rick doesn't know. I don't think that Jesse knows, but I believe she could easily figure it out because she knows that Dick Grayson is Nightwing from her Titans tenure.

Hourman could know at any time, via his precognitive flashes as well.

> 5. Flash/Jay Garrick: I think that Jay knows that Batman is Bruce Wayne. I believe this because of the Wally West connection. There would be no reason for Jay not to know that Batman is Bruce Wayne, but I also think there is no reason why he'd NEED to know that Batman is Bruce Wayne. I could chalk this up to "Jay knows because he talked to Alan Scott" sort of things.

I figure Jay knows because of the Earth-2 business in IC, for sure, but I suspect he knew well before that... but I actually can't think of a single reason that he'd know for sure. (Alan's pretty good at keeping secrets, as HUAC found out...)

> 6. Wildcat: Ted actually trained Batman, so I know that Ted Grant knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman.

If he didn't figure it out during the training, he's learned since then by watching him, almost certainly.

> 7. Mr. Terrific: Michael probably knows that Batman = Bruce Wayne, but I think he respects Batman's privacy enough so as not to delve further into it. Michael is dating someone who knows that Bruce Wayne = Batman, but I don't think he's ever pressed the subject with her.

I'm sure Terrific knows. The question is whether he figured it out on his own, or Bruce told him... they think highly of one another.

> 8. Stargirl: I think Stargirl could find out and I think that her stepdad probably knows that Bruce is Batman, but for now I think that she's in the dark about it until she has to know.

I am sure she doesn't know... yet.

> 9. Cyclone: Cyclone probably doesn't know Bruce's identity.

She's had almost no chance to learn, so I agree.

> 10. Hawkman: Carter knows that Bruce is Batman because they've unmasked in front of each other before when they worked in the JLA.

If Carter didn't know before then... I've always suspected he's where Bruce learned a few of his tricks from.

> 11. Obsidian: Todd probably doesn't know, if for the sheer fact that I'm sure the Infinity Inc kids don't know that Batman = Bruce Wayne.

At the same time, Todd was in the JLA at one point, is telepathic with his sister (who dated Kyle Rayner, who does know the secret and is a big mouth), and had the whole "villain in the shadows" bit for a while. He could well know.

> 12. Damage: He could find out because he was a titan that knew Dick Grayson = Nightwing, but I don't think that Grant put two and two together like Jesse would to find out Batman's secret.

Damage shares some of Bruce's DNA, doesn't he? He could learn at any time because of that, but the odds aren't in his favor.

> 13. Dr. Midnight: would probably be in the same camp at Mr. Terrific in that it would be none of his business and he would purposefully not look into the matter.

I think he knows after the Drake murder, but I also don't think he'd care.

> 14. Jakeem: JT probably has figured it out during the JSA run when he went insane and trapped all the heroes. But I think that his thunderbolt may have wiped his mind clean of the incident.

One hopes. Jakeem simply couldn't be trusted with that knowledge.


TJB


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