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Talezite

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Ed Love

Subj: Re: Earth 2 Speedy
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 05:12:16 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Earth 2 Speedy
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 12:50:07 pm EDT

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> After the golden age Green Arrow was killed in Crisis On Infinite Earths, whatever happened to the golden age Speedy who survived? How did the writers explain this one? Was he was "retconned" out of existence? Since we now have the multiverse back, there is room for the G.A. Speedy because we know there is a version of the G.A. Robin active.

That's the thing about the deaths of characters like the Earth-2 Robin and Green Arrow and Lex Luthor earlier. While used for dramatic effect in the story, ultimately they don't really count as ALL duplicate heroes and villains were retconned into non-existance. Usually it was the Silver-age version over the GA, but even that wasn't iron clad. In some cases like Luthor, ultimately both versions were gone in favor of an all new one when Superman's book got revamped. So, it really doesn't matter if Speedy survived that battle or not.

Now, I thought it would have been daring to have the present day Green Arrow actually be the golden-age Speedy, passing his own moniker to a new hero. If there is a version of the Earth-2 Robin active, then sure, maybe there's a Speedy. And of course, there may be a Green Arrow as well since Robin had also died in that comic.

Golden-age hero and villain encyclopedia: www.geocities.com/cash_gorman

http://hero-goggles.blogspot.com/

> > After the golden age Green Arrow was killed in Crisis On Infinite Earths, whatever happened to the golden age Speedy who survived? How did the writers explain this one? Was he was "retconned" out of existence? Since we now have the multiverse back, there is room for the G.A. Speedy because we know there is a version of the G.A. Robin active.
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> That's the thing about the deaths of characters like the Earth-2 Robin and Green Arrow and Lex Luthor earlier. While used for dramatic effect in the story, ultimately they don't really count as ALL duplicate heroes and villains were retconned into non-existance. Usually it was the Silver-age version over the GA, but even that wasn't iron clad. In some cases like Luthor, ultimately both versions were gone in favor of an all new one when Superman's book got revamped. So, it really doesn't matter if Speedy survived that battle or not.
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> Now, I thought it would have been daring to have the present day Green Arrow actually be the golden-age Speedy, passing his own moniker to a new hero. If there is a version of the Earth-2 Robin active, then sure, maybe there's a Speedy. And of course, there may be a Green Arrow as well since Robin had also died in that comic.
>
> Golden-age hero and villain encyclopedia: www.geocities.com/cash_gorman
>
> http://hero-goggles.blogspot.com/


I completely agree on that it would be daring/interesting to make the present day Green Arrow to actually be the Golden Age Speedy! In my opinion that would have been better than having Ollie come back from the dead...it would have been a true curve ball plot line wise as most long term readers are unfortunately used to all kinds of characters coming back from the dead.

The Golden age Speedy could be an interesting character if placed in the right hands (as all characters could potentially be). My take on him is that he would be a trainer for the marksmen of the DCU in the same manner Wildcat has taught Batman, Catwoman, etc (I am sure there are more) to fight.

as always good reading to you all.




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