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Ed Love

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Subj: Re: A few thoughts on this weeks issue. [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 03:05:25 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: A few thoughts on this weeks issue. [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 01:06:33 pm EDT

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> hmm. Not really. For one thing his presence and words make zero sense unless Kingdom Come ended about 6 pages earlier than it really did. Everyone didn't die. By the end of the mini, he looked to be in a good place and they were in the process of rebuilding the relationships between the normal and superhuman populaces. And there's nothing in the story to address that this little continuity error is a story point and not an error or willful ignoring/re-writing continuity to make it fit the story.
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I'm thinking that this Superman was plucked right after everything went white. When the bomb went off, that might be when Superman was plucked from this world into New Earth.

- l.k.

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> > hmm. Not really. For one thing his presence and words make zero sense unless Kingdom Come ended about 6 pages earlier than it really did. Everyone didn't die. By the end of the mini, he looked to be in a good place and they were in the process of rebuilding the relationships between the normal and superhuman populaces. And there's nothing in the story to address that this little continuity error is a story point and not an error or willful ignoring/re-writing continuity to make it fit the story.
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> I'm thinking that this Superman was plucked right after everything went white. When the bomb went off, that might be when Superman was plucked from this world into New Earth.
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I thought of that but then what? From the set up that I see here, it means the way this unfolds, he learns about heroism and such from the JSA then goes back to his Earth right after the explosion and helps guide those that survived into the new era and blah, blah, blah.

But to what purpose? It's the tail wagging the dog of making a complete and done story by another writer subservient to the current story. And not "complete and done" in the sense of stories being complete and done in serial fiction, where we expect Per Degaton or Vandal Savage to return one day after dying on panel, but in that it was a complete story in another universe and continuity and set up to be complete in and of itself. It's Doyle having Holmes stopping and telling Poe's Auguste Dupin the solution to "The Murders in the Rue Morgue" while he's on his way to fight Moriarty. If Johns' story is addressing a shortcoming in the KC, a plot hole or continuity glitch, that'd be one thing. Instead it's using KC to elevate the JSA and make the JSA important to the ultimate resolution of the other story.

It'd have been just as easy to start from the end of the story, to start a new chapter. Have Superman somehow end up here at the end and then truly serving as an inspiration to the JSA while searching for some way back home to those that he loves and the new life he's built. It also adds conflict, because if it's truly Superman from the pages within, that limits what can be done to the character. We already know his final destination. But, if it starts after, who knows how long does he stay or if he lives to see the birth of his and Diana's child. I don't mind plucking characters from different books and such, but it should be done in such a way that it leaves the original stories intact, that whatever happens doesn't alter the intregrity of the original story.

I'm reminded of a few horror movies and sequels that I've seen where the sequel starts off by killing off the heroes that survived the first movie. Well, that first movie is now lessened because of what I know now happens five minutes after it ends. That high of seeing the heroes triumphing is now gone, because the triumph is only illusionary (somehow the inverse is not true, having the bad guy somehow return doesn't really lessen the movie unless you're talking about a great death/great sacrifice ala King Kong).

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