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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 06:45:25 am EST (Viewed 1 times)
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 02:05:13 am EST

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I am an avid reader of all things JSA and a bit of an OCD completist as well. This being said, I was recently perusing my Starman collection and came across issue 75 which kind of bridges several stories and leads into the final arc of the series. It struck me how interesting the interaction between Jack and Clark played out and how much I enjoyed this series for just such moments and these brief interjections which Robinson seemed so good at. It made me wonder which of these series and related series (legacy stuff) I have enjoyed the most so I thought I would put the question out there for any of you who are interested in responding.

Which of the JSA or related series have you enjoyed the most?

Of the series, which story arcs have you enjoyed the most?

Why? What struck you about these stories and what made them stick with you?

I have to say that Robinson's Starman is probably my favorite overall book of all time though Jack is not necessarily my favorite character. I just loved the way that Robinson succeeded in bringing these antiquated characters into the here and now and giving them a humanity and a relevance that has arguably led to the success that they are experiencing now. I'm not necessarily saying that if there had never been a Starman there wouldn't be a modern day JSA but it is an interesting thought especially considering that Robinson and Jack were there for the initial arc of the series that launched the JSA back into prominance. Please respond and don't be shy with your responces. I'm open to any of the legacy characters no matter how tenuous their connection to the JSA. If you love the Firebrand series (never read it myself), throw it out there. I loved Damage, I enjoyed the Ray, I even read most of the Black Condor series all b/c they were legacy hereos (sort of.)

Anyone else willing to throw anything out? I'd love to hear what you have to say.

The Rev


> I am an avid reader of all things JSA and a bit of an OCD completist as well. This being said, I was recently perusing my Starman collection and came across issue 75 which kind of bridges several stories and leads into the final arc of the series. It struck me how interesting the interaction between Jack and Clark played out and how much I enjoyed this series for just such moments and these brief interjections which Robinson seemed so good at. It made me wonder which of these series and related series (legacy stuff) I have enjoyed the most so I thought I would put the question out there for any of you who are interested in responding.
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> Which of the JSA or related series have you enjoyed the most?
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> Of the series, which story arcs have you enjoyed the most?
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> Why? What struck you about these stories and what made them stick with you?
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> I have to say that Robinson's Starman is probably my favorite overall book of all time though Jack is not necessarily my favorite character. I just loved the way that Robinson succeeded in bringing these antiquated characters into the here and now and giving them a humanity and a relevance that has arguably led to the success that they are experiencing now. I'm not necessarily saying that if there had never been a Starman there wouldn't be a modern day JSA but it is an interesting thought especially considering that Robinson and Jack were there for the initial arc of the series that launched the JSA back into prominance. Please respond and don't be shy with your responces. I'm open to any of the legacy characters no matter how tenuous their connection to the JSA. If you love the Firebrand series (never read it myself), throw it out there. I loved Damage, I enjoyed the Ray, I even read most of the Black Condor series all b/c they were legacy hereos (sort of.)
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> Anyone else willing to throw anything out? I'd love to hear what you have to say.
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> The Rev
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Thats alot of food for thought. I am definately with you on Starman, that to me was the quintessential comic series. It had alot of good things going for it and yeah I think it reactivated interest in the golden age DC characters, that and the elseworlds series the Golden Age...also written by Robinson I believe. In fact your post has inspired me to re read my Starman series and thats always a good thing. I have not read it since the series ended.

1) JSA series (or related) I have enjoyed the most: Starman, Hourman (the android had a certain charm, Damage, Hawkman (newest), any limited series or recent comics with Wildcat in them, The Doctor Midnight limited series (Matt Wagner) and the first Ray mini series (I did not read alot of the ongoing) also The Spectre series (by Ostlander and Mandrake)

2) Why I liked them/what made them stick with me

a)Starman : To me Jack Knight was a very compelling character in that he was the hero who did not want to be a hero who grew into one at the end. Its a story of getting older,accepting more responsibility, and that of maturity. The way his brother and Dad were handled were very nice to watch. It was tough to watch his Dad die fighting the Mist but it was a nice end to the original Starman. Also the character of the Shade was so well written and developed that I really wish Robinson would write an ongoing Shade series...however unlikely. The idea of good and evil as concepts dissolving with time (as he was immortal) is an interesting one. The Shade spent time as both a villian and a hero and his motivation still remains vital. Also the legacy effect in action with all the other Starmen being used including the one who "died" in Crisis on Infinate Earths. Also least I forget Soloman Grundy used as a sympathetic and serious character! That was awesome. To many times he has been portrayed a mindless brute rather than the cursed soul that he sometimes can be. Theres more but I will save that for another time.

b)Hourman......The andriod hourman was a cool character to me in that he has a sense of responsibilty and tried to learn to be human who also controlling time powers of great magnitude. The reason I thought this was good was that in his fights with Amazo and interactions with Snapper Carr you got to see a very heroic character who was trapped in time and was a keeper of the Rex Tyler legacy. Things that stuck with me ...Snapper car's role and his friendship with Hourman. Hourman stuggling with the identity of himself and temporal variants. Personally I was a little let down when this series ended because I thought the premise was so strong. Ultimately his sacrifice in JSA to bring back Rex was moving. I think altruistic characters are a rare and good thing in comics. Another thing that stuck me is that the art fit this comic perfectly. Rags Morales style really set the tone with the series.

c) Damage....The whole idea of character who does not know who his parents are is always nice to see play out. The references to the human bomb, Phantom lady and Iron Munroe were nice touches. Next to Star man Damage is the best thing to spin out of Zero Hour. (imo) Things that stuck with me was how Damage's raw power level was a reached strange level. The whole restarting of the DCU from an explosion of his is a crazy idea.

d)Hawkman.....The fist three years of the Hawkman series (or so) was a great read. The whole perpetual rencarnate thing was cool. In a way we could say Carter Hall is like a Highlander with a wing pack. Things that stuck out to me was the development of St Roch (the city) and the acknowledgement that Carter and Ray Palmer (silver age Atom) have always been good friends even through they are differant characters. Unlike the combative relationship he has with Green Arrow, Ray and Carter could sit down and talk about archeology and lost civilizations and thats great stuff! The relationship to Kendra is always interesting and it has the ups and downs that many relationships always have but on a magnified level if you tie in thier tied reincarnation backstory. I never read this title was it was just Hawkgirl. Use of the Shadow Thief as a bad guy as well as the Gentleman ghost is always cool to see as they are unique Hawkman villians.

e) The Doctor Mignight series: This was a nice read that made Midnight cool to me again, The painted art set a nice tone and as always Wagner can deliver a character driven story. To me this paved the way to the current Doctor Midnight (in the JSA) and remined me that he was not just another batman clone. This is worth digging for if you have not read it and has an interesting history of delay....that stuck with me. That of course was back in the day when series that were too late just got released in thier entirely later on rater than making the reader wait months between issues. Ah the good ole days ;\)

Wildcat (limted series Wildcat vs Batman), Spectre, and Ray series I will post soon........I am outta time unfortunately.


As always good reading to you all.