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Sweep Secondhand

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Orion Prime

Subj: Re: We Need Superman-22! [SPOILERS]
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 11:06:22 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: We Need Superman-22! [SPOILERS]
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 09:30:59 am EST

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> > For all that he has done, even being something of a part of the Superman lineage, there is no redemption? I agree with you, he has done a great deal. Any other person, i would say, let justice be swift and quick and terminate this piece of crap. When it comes right down to it, how would you kill a Superman not affected by magic, no form of Kryptonite can kill him?
> > More to the point, who would you have be his executioner? We have seen what has happened when the heroes take matters into their own hands. That would be the previous incarnation of the DCU. The Guardians or the Spectre possibly?
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> > Question to one and all, how would you go about defending Superman Prime in a court of law. We know what he has done. We can even surmise fromw hat he has said, why he did it. Would you say that because he was/is emotionally distraught, unbalanced, permeated with negative anti-energy (supplied by Alex Luthor), this ultimately drove him over the edge? His world, his universe, his family, his loved ones, all gone, dead, wiped out.
> > It is the measure of a man, how he deals with such. In this case, a boy, inexperienced, thrown into situations he wasn't ready for and ultimately corrupted because of the circumstances.
> > Yes, he has taken many lives, but to balance the scales,w ould it mean taking his life? What about Hal Jordan, as a precedent? Hal Jordan, corrupted by the entity parallax, committed murder of his fellow Green Lanterns and ultimately caused the Zero Hour effect. Although it is known that the entity Parallax was in control, it was through the means of Hal Jordan's body in which these actions took place.
> > In the case of Superman Prime, there is no other entity, but extenuating circumstances, which lead up to this.
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> > It would be easy to throw away Truth, Justice and be absolute and totalitarian. Death is easy. Letting him live and remember his actions, while taking his powers away from him, permenantly would be far better. He is guilty by reason of insanity.
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> > Thoughts?
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> Honestly I think Prime is a disgrace to the Superman legacy. I mean he killed the Golden Age Superman, arguably the single greatest hero that ever lived. I don't doubt that losing your entire world could drive someone understandably insane but the COIE caused millions of people to lose their worlds. Power Girl has had a lot of problems as a result but she hasn't started killing people to try and get Earth-2 back. If there were a viable means of containing Prime then I might feel differently but I think anything less than execution for him is just a delay of more deaths. Has it been shown that he is completely immune to magic? Remember the Spectre's rampage with Eclipso and the end of the ninth age of magic sidelined the majority of the magic heroes during Infinite Crapfest. Granted a depowered Doctor Fate probably isn't much of a threat but I would but there are other magic heroes who are. Now that the Spectre has been regrounded, I am certain he could take Prime out if he wanted to.
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> - Sweep

You are absolutely correct that a lot of people lost their lives. More so, Power Girl went through a great tragedy as well, with her powers, origin and such. The difference is that she wasn't alone and had an understanding support group. Even if what she did not know was true, she had time to deal with her power and the situation which COIE dealt her and the universe.
Prime on the other hand basically just started and then everything ends for him. The only support he had was an aging Superman concerned about his wife and Alex Luthor and of course the memory crystals, which would drive any one batty. If anything, he was manipulated.

As to depowering him, i'm sure there is a way to do it. Whether it is one of science, magic or both.
To allow Prime to continue on as is, would be a travesty. To depower him and let him live an ordinary life, mind wiped, would give him a sanctity of peace and punishment for his crimes. Otherwise, the simple solution would be to kill him, which would be no solution at all.
I'm suprised no one would at least want him to suffer as much as he has made this universe.

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> > Honestly I think Prime is a disgrace to the Superman legacy. I mean he killed the Golden Age Superman, arguably the single greatest hero that ever lived. I don't doubt that losing your entire world could drive someone understandably insane but the COIE caused millions of people to lose their worlds. Power Girl has had a lot of problems as a result but she hasn't started killing people to try and get Earth-2 back. If there were a viable means of containing Prime then I might feel differently but I think anything less than execution for him is just a delay of more deaths. Has it been shown that he is completely immune to magic? Remember the Spectre's rampage with Eclipso and the end of the ninth age of magic sidelined the majority of the magic heroes during Infinite Crapfest. Granted a depowered Doctor Fate probably isn't much of a threat but I would but there are other magic heroes who are. Now that the Spectre has been regrounded, I am certain he could take Prime out if he wanted to.
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> > - Sweep
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> You are absolutely correct that a lot of people lost their lives. More so, Power Girl went through a great tragedy as well, with her powers, origin and such. The difference is that she wasn't alone and had an understanding support group. Even if what she did not know was true, she had time to deal with her power and the situation which COIE dealt her and the universe.
> Prime on the other hand basically just started and then everything ends for him. The only support he had was an aging Superman concerned about his wife and Alex Luthor and of course the memory crystals, which would drive any one batty. If anything, he was manipulated.
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> As to depowering him, i'm sure there is a way to do it. Whether it is one of science, magic or both.
> To allow Prime to continue on as is, would be a travesty. To depower him and let him live an ordinary life, mind wiped, would give him a sanctity of peace and punishment for his crimes. Otherwise, the simple solution would be to kill him, which would be no solution at all.
> I'm suprised no one would at least want him to suffer as much as he has made this universe.

Killing him IS a solution, it makes absolutely sure he will never kill anyone ever again and gives some peace to the families and friends of the indiviuals he killed. I see no reason to make him suffer, just get it over with so it can't happen again. If an absolutely fool proof method could be found to depower prime then I say that's fine but otherwise I say execution is the safe bet.

- Sweep


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