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Subj: Re: Spawn of the All-Stars (including the Freedom Fighters).
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 01:06:54 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Spawn of the All-Stars (including the Freedom Fighters).
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 04:06:03 am EDT (Viewed 1 times)

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> > > > At least I hope the return of Earth 2 will lead to the return of the All Star Squadron. There is just too much unrealized, rich 1940's and 1950's history to be left undeveloped. I just hope that there aren't any "new" characters introduced. There are alot of great already in existence.
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> > >
> > > Actually, I'd like to say the perisphere never got tore down on DC earth and the, in modern times, we still have an All-Star Squadron (only now, the children and grandchildren of the originals are there carrying on a family tradition). DC had DIAL "H" FOR HERO, so maybe Golden Age fans would like a crack at creating the offspring and grandchildren of the All-Stars and send in their results. It could be a ton of fun, with the right creative team enthusiastically coordinating this fan-driven effort. ALL-STAR SQUADRON was always a much-beloved book,IMHO.
> >
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> > That would be great to see BUT alas it seems that on this earth 2 there is a group of legacy characters that have sprung from their version of the Justice Society adn that being Infinity Inc.
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> Well, anything's possible now with 52 worlds to play with, including the mainstream one.
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> > Personally there doesn't seem to be many of the All Star Squadron that would have kids but we can wonder.
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>
> Actually, when you factor in the very real possibility of illegitimate kids down through the decades, you could have a plethora of new All-Stars to play around with. "Iron" Munroe was a randy guy in the 40's: who knows who many super-kids he sired, perhaps even some with beautiful amazons Hippolyta introduced him too.
>
> Flash and that pretty redheaded scientist from the 40's, Dr. Maria Flura, could have had a secret lovechild (Speed Lord).
>
> Hourman might have other children out there. Atom/Al Pratt might have a hard-drinking Irish son from a Maureen O'Hara type he once dated who inherited his strength and love of adventure, calling himself "Little Hercules". He'd be a fun character, out to have a good time and stomp some bad guys. Pure conceptual characters, like the Golden Age:fun instead of all glum.
>
> Dr. Occult could have offspring. So could Wing, Crimson Avenger, Phantom of the Fair, and both Manhunters (many times over from multiple women over the decades, given their wandering ways).
>
> T.N.T. could have sired a son (T.N.T. was Tex Thompson, so his son can be call himself Texas T.N.T. and operate in Central Texas mainly with his hot Chinese girlfriend,Babe, the granddaughter of Stuff).
>
> Shining Knight and Firebrand could have a number of offspring. I once created one called the Fiery Knight. Do you have one in mind?
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> >
> > My ideas would be:
> >
> > Earth 2 Jessie Quick - A Son to Johnny Quick & Liberty Belle
> > A Child for Firebrand 2 & Shining Knight
> > Earth 2 version of Courtney Whitmore under another codename
> > Starman's Son's
> > Earth 2 Gimmix - jacqueline Pemberton, Star Spangled Kids Neice
>
> Got a scan?
>
> > Earth 2 - The Whip 2 - Shelley Gaynor Grand Daughter of the Original
>
> Got a scan?
>
> > A Son for Black Canary 1
>
> By Wildcat?
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>
>
> > Earth 2 Speedy as the Earth 2 Green Arrow
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> Lot's of potential.
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>
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> > A Child for Joan Dale, Miss America
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> I'd like to use Magno, Neon the Unknown, Red Bee, Invisible Hood, and Red Torpedo too.
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>
>
> > A Child for Phantom lady
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> A must!
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>
>
> > A Generational Legacy of Tarantula's
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> Sounds great.
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>
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> > Maybe An offspring for either TNT or Dynamite
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>
> All sorts of ideas spring to mind.
>
>
> > Maybe an Offspring for the Golden Age Aquaman
>
> Aquababy grows up?
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Maybe an Offspring for the Golden Age Plasticman
>
> I always thought Bouncing Boy should be a descendant of Plas.
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>
>
> > An Offspring for Doll man & Doll Girl
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> Absolutely!
>
>
>
>
> > A legacy Character for the Black Condor (Maybe tie it in to the male child of Black Canary)
> > Earth 2's sandy the Golden Boy
>
>
> Lot's of potential there.
>
>
>
> > Amazing Mans Offspring
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>
> Doesn't he have a son wearing his costume now that popped up in Justice League many years ago?
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>
>
> > Commander Steels Offspring
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>
>
> How many kids and grandkids does Commander Steel have, anyway? I lost count.
>
>
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> > Jonni Thunder who could actually be a neice of Johnny Thunder, her father was a James thunder who could have been one of Johnny's Six Brothers.
> >
> > If any one could either think of some more or maybe flesh my suggestions out that would be cool.
> >
> > Bogo Out
> >
> > I will think of some more soon. So Except for fleshing them out there is a basis for an offshoot of the All Star Squadron on the new earth 2 a few slight kinks to the norm but it could be workable.

There have been some great ideas springing from this but we must realise I think this is to comprise of the All Star Squadron from the New Earth 2 and not he current DC Earth. So CHaracters like iron Munro would not be used on this planet as he was a retcon to replace Superman after the First Crisis and we have to safely assume that all characters that were members of the New Earth ASSQ would have doppelgangers on the new Earth 2 except Iron Munro, (As I just mentioned), Flying Fox & the Original Fury as they replaced the big 3 on New earth as they did not appear till Much Later.

Gimmix And the Female Whip I mentioned were used in Morrisons Seven Soldiers of Victory and it would be nice to see these tqo characters put to a better use on Earth 2
Bogo

The new line-up is nice, but it is missing three major ingredients:

Earth-2!!
WWII!!!!
and most importantly:
ROY THOMAS!!!!!!

The All-Star Squadron, in order to work, must be based on Earth-2, written by Roy (or with his involvement) tying in Golden Age stories, based during WWII and keeping that fun spirit that the original series had.
How about Roy plotting and Geoff Johns writing?

> > > > > At least I hope the return of Earth 2 will lead to the return of the All Star Squadron. There is just too much unrealized, rich 1940's and 1950's history to be left undeveloped. I just hope that there aren't any "new" characters introduced. There are alot of great already in existence.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I'd like to say the perisphere never got tore down on DC earth and the, in modern times, we still have an All-Star Squadron (only now, the children and grandchildren of the originals are there carrying on a family tradition). DC had DIAL "H" FOR HERO, so maybe Golden Age fans would like a crack at creating the offspring and grandchildren of the All-Stars and send in their results. It could be a ton of fun, with the right creative team enthusiastically coordinating this fan-driven effort. ALL-STAR SQUADRON was always a much-beloved book,IMHO.
> > >
> > >
> > > That would be great to see BUT alas it seems that on this earth 2 there is a group of legacy characters that have sprung from their version of the Justice Society adn that being Infinity Inc.
> >
> >
> > Well, anything's possible now with 52 worlds to play with, including the mainstream one.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Personally there doesn't seem to be many of the All Star Squadron that would have kids but we can wonder.
> >
> >
> > Actually, when you factor in the very real possibility of illegitimate kids down through the decades, you could have a plethora of new All-Stars to play around with. "Iron" Munroe was a randy guy in the 40's: who knows who many super-kids he sired, perhaps even some with beautiful amazons Hippolyta introduced him too.
> >
> > Flash and that pretty redheaded scientist from the 40's, Dr. Maria Flura, could have had a secret lovechild (Speed Lord).
> >
> > Hourman might have other children out there. Atom/Al Pratt might have a hard-drinking Irish son from a Maureen O'Hara type he once dated who inherited his strength and love of adventure, calling himself "Little Hercules". He'd be a fun character, out to have a good time and stomp some bad guys. Pure conceptual characters, like the Golden Age:fun instead of all glum.
> >
> > Dr. Occult could have offspring. So could Wing, Crimson Avenger, Phantom of the Fair, and both Manhunters (many times over from multiple women over the decades, given their wandering ways).
> >
> > T.N.T. could have sired a son (T.N.T. was Tex Thompson, so his son can be call himself Texas T.N.T. and operate in Central Texas mainly with his hot Chinese girlfriend,Babe, the granddaughter of Stuff).
> >
> > Shining Knight and Firebrand could have a number of offspring. I once created one called the Fiery Knight. Do you have one in mind?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > My ideas would be:
> > >
> > > Earth 2 Jessie Quick - A Son to Johnny Quick & Liberty Belle
> > > A Child for Firebrand 2 & Shining Knight
> > > Earth 2 version of Courtney Whitmore under another codename
> > > Starman's Son's
> > > Earth 2 Gimmix - jacqueline Pemberton, Star Spangled Kids Neice
> >
> > Got a scan?
> >
> > > Earth 2 - The Whip 2 - Shelley Gaynor Grand Daughter of the Original
> >
> > Got a scan?
> >
> > > A Son for Black Canary 1
> >
> > By Wildcat?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Earth 2 Speedy as the Earth 2 Green Arrow
> >
> > Lot's of potential.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > A Child for Joan Dale, Miss America
> >
> > I'd like to use Magno, Neon the Unknown, Red Bee, Invisible Hood, and Red Torpedo too.
> >
> >
> >
> > > A Child for Phantom lady
> >
> > A must!
> >
> >
> >
> > > A Generational Legacy of Tarantula's
> >
> > Sounds great.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Maybe An offspring for either TNT or Dynamite
> >
> >
> > All sorts of ideas spring to mind.
> >
> >
> > > Maybe an Offspring for the Golden Age Aquaman
> >
> > Aquababy grows up?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Maybe an Offspring for the Golden Age Plasticman
> >
> > I always thought Bouncing Boy should be a descendant of Plas.
> >
> >
> >
> > > An Offspring for Doll man & Doll Girl
> >
> > Absolutely!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > A legacy Character for the Black Condor (Maybe tie it in to the male child of Black Canary)
> > > Earth 2's sandy the Golden Boy
> >
> >
> > Lot's of potential there.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Amazing Mans Offspring
> >
> >
> > Doesn't he have a son wearing his costume now that popped up in Justice League many years ago?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Commander Steels Offspring
> >
> >
> >
> > How many kids and grandkids does Commander Steel have, anyway? I lost count.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Jonni Thunder who could actually be a neice of Johnny Thunder, her father was a James thunder who could have been one of Johnny's Six Brothers.
> > >
> > > If any one could either think of some more or maybe flesh my suggestions out that would be cool.
> > >
> > > Bogo Out
> > >
> > > I will think of some more soon. So Except for fleshing them out there is a basis for an offshoot of the All Star Squadron on the new earth 2 a few slight kinks to the norm but it could be workable.
>
> There have been some great ideas springing from this but we must realise I think this is to comprise of the All Star Squadron from the New Earth 2 and not he current DC Earth. So CHaracters like iron Munro would not be used on this planet as he was a retcon to replace Superman after the First Crisis and we have to safely assume that all characters that were members of the New Earth ASSQ would have doppelgangers on the new Earth 2 except Iron Munro, (As I just mentioned), Flying Fox & the Original Fury as they replaced the big 3 on New earth as they did not appear till Much Later.
>
> Gimmix And the Female Whip I mentioned were used in Morrisons Seven Soldiers of Victory and it would be nice to see these tqo characters put to a better use on Earth 2
> Bogo


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