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Talezite

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Jon Clark

Subj: Re: You can't go home again
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 07:32:03 am EDT
Reply Subj: You can't go home again
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 at 01:40:52 am EDT

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> In the early days of the new DCU after COIE, things were quite well done in the way the new combined DCU were potrayed. Sadly over the years things went a little haywire (see Donna Troy, Hawkman and Supergirl a little). It could not be helped though and I am sure it was not intentional. Now I really feel that after FC, we should see the return of the original multiverse. Not the new one after IC but the actual one before COIE. I really would not mind reading about different sets of heroes in different Earths. Sort of reading about DCu at one time and then Dark Hourse in another and then Wildstorm. With good writing it can be interesting and we can have the occasional crossovers.
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> The only thing is how to explain the continuity from 1985 till now when everyone was in one Earth when so many heroes lives affected others? Any thoughts there?

I loved Earth-2 back in the Pre-Crisis days, but I doubt you could get it back the way it was. Outside of Roy Thomas most writers couldn't keep the Earth-2 history straight when it wasn't intermingled with a shared Earth, I doubt anyone could reconstruct it now that it has been "confused" by twenty-two years of redefined stories.

If they told us they were returning to the original Earth-2, I doubt it would look much different than what we will be getting with the new one anyway. Geoff or whoever was writing would keep the bits of Earth-2 he remembered fondly and either deliberately or through faulty memory rewrite the rest. I mean how long would it take for a modern writer to introduce Robinson's non-Earth2 Starman history or Sandman Mystery Theater based on the faulty assumption these were how it happened originally (or even becuase they were better takes than the original stories).

And that's not necessarily a criticism or a bad thing. Guys like Roy Thomas or Kurt Busiek who seem to remember every panel in every comic they read decades ago are few in number. Better to state upfront "this isn't your father's Earth-2" than deal with us fans who know "that isn't how it REALLY happened in issue #XX".

Personally I wish they would just remove some of the dead weight in the modern DCU by shifting characters back into the multiverse. Let Earth-2 have a retired version of the Trinity (among other JSA-ers) and tell stories there about the next generation (the old Infinitors plus a few new ones) on a world where they are the major heroes now. Give the fans of Ted Kord or Captain Atom a bone and set an on going series on Earth-4 where they are the stars and no one ever heard of Batman, Superman or any Flash. But if they do i'd rather the series start these world as blank slates where there is no continuity for the characters until a story ON THAT WORLD is told about them.






> > In the early days of the new DCU after COIE, things were quite well done in the way the new combined DCU were potrayed. Sadly over the years things went a little haywire (see Donna Troy, Hawkman and Supergirl a little). It could not be helped though and I am sure it was not intentional. Now I really feel that after FC, we should see the return of the original multiverse. Not the new one after IC but the actual one before COIE. I really would not mind reading about different sets of heroes in different Earths. Sort of reading about DCu at one time and then Dark Hourse in another and then Wildstorm. With good writing it can be interesting and we can have the occasional crossovers.
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> > The only thing is how to explain the continuity from 1985 till now when everyone was in one Earth when so many heroes lives affected others? Any thoughts there?
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> I loved Earth-2 back in the Pre-Crisis days, but I doubt you could get it back the way it was. Outside of Roy Thomas most writers couldn't keep the Earth-2 history straight when it wasn't intermingled with a shared Earth, I doubt anyone could reconstruct it now that it has been "confused" by twenty-two years of redefined stories.
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> If they told us they were returning to the original Earth-2, I doubt it would look much different than what we will be getting with the new one anyway. Geoff or whoever was writing would keep the bits of Earth-2 he remembered fondly and either deliberately or through faulty memory rewrite the rest. I mean how long would it take for a modern writer to introduce Robinson's non-Earth2 Starman history or Sandman Mystery Theater based on the faulty assumption these were how it happened originally (or even becuase they were better takes than the original stories).
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> And that's not necessarily a criticism or a bad thing. Guys like Roy Thomas or Kurt Busiek who seem to remember every panel in every comic they read decades ago are few in number. Better to state upfront "this isn't your father's Earth-2" than deal with us fans who know "that isn't how it REALLY happened in issue #XX".
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> Personally I wish they would just remove some of the dead weight in the modern DCU by shifting characters back into the multiverse. Let Earth-2 have a retired version of the Trinity (among other JSA-ers) and tell stories there about the next generation (the old Infinitors plus a few new ones) on a world where they are the major heroes now. Give the fans of Ted Kord or Captain Atom a bone and set an on going series on Earth-4 where they are the stars and no one ever heard of Batman, Superman or any Flash. But if they do i'd rather the series start these world as blank slates where there is no continuity for the characters until a story ON THAT WORLD is told about them.

These are all great points! I would look forward to any stories set on Earth 4 (Charleton comics earth) for sure ;\) As always good reading to you all.
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