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Zazu

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Jay!

Subj: Re: Dick & Helena
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 11:29:40 pm EDT (Viewed 353 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Dick & Helena
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 04:43:06 pm EDT


> > > > > As for the age thing of Earth Two, this is kind of tricky. Did they state that the JSA on Earth Two dates back to WW II? At one point DC used to claim that Earth 2 was "twenty years behind" Earth 1...this could be the case on Earth Two.
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> > > > Actually, Earth 1 was about 20 years behind Earth 2 (JSA - 1940's and JLA - 1960's) but it was only in reference to the timing of the appearance of the superheroes. WW II still happened in the 1940's for example.
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> > > > > Or the various characters could have somehow had their aging processes slowed down...slightly different than what happened with the JSA on New Earth.
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> > > Justice League of America v. 1 #82
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> > I took a look at that issue today to see what you were talking about. The issue does states something to the effect that Earth 2 vibrates at a slower rate so it's about 20 years behind Earth 1. Unfortunately, that doesn't really work. For it to be true, the JLA would have appeared 20 years before the JSA, WW II would have been in the 1960's on Earth 2 or the 1920's on Earth 1, etc.
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> It stated, "Twin earths ... twin galaxies ... twin realities -- occupying the same physical space, yet separated by a gulf more vast than mere distance! Each atom and electron, each proton and neutron, vibrates in harmony with eternal cosmic rhythm ... and, although the evolution of the twin universes is merely parallel, they vibrate differently! Thus, time is slower on Earth-Two ... and its inhabitants will reach mankind's ultimate destiny -- or ultimate doom -- twenty years later than the creatures of Earth-One ..."
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> It said nothing about World War II or the Justice League in that description, it said the "inhabitants" of Earth-Two AGE slower than those of Earth-One.
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> Big difference.

Yes, I got that. Time moves slower. It's also saying that things happen on Earth 1 first - whatever happens on Earth 1 will eventually happen on Earth 2. Except that's not what happened with the JSA and JLA.

You can look at it another way, too. It's talking about when they reach their "ultimate destiny," whenever that may be, it will take another 20 years for it to happen on Earth 2. Let's say the timeline is 100 "time units" for Earth 1 to reach its ultimate destiny, it will take 120 for Earth 2 - a noticeable difference. However, it could take 1 million "time units" for Earth 1 and 1,000,020 units for Earth 2. Not very noticeable, is it?

If it was supposed to be the first one, then it's wrong since the JSA clearly appeared before the JLA by 20 years, not the other way around. If it's the second, then it's pretty insignificant in the end since we know we're talking billions of years at this point.

Are you really going to take a poorly written statement from 40 years ago as canon?


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