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James Hunter

Subj: Re: On the subject of Huntress...
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 01:43:13 pm EST (Viewed 375 times)
Reply Subj: Re: On the subject of Huntress...
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 04:15:10 pm EST (Viewed 372 times)




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    I *thought* I wouldn't be against the new set up for a new 52 EARTH-2 but it turns out I am, because I am dropping the title. I just find the characters *too* different for my liking and, with the outing of Alan Scott, I don't have ANY problem with that other then the knock on effect it has of on other characters (noticably Jade and Obsidian and, indirectly, Kyle because he can't of had a relationship with Jade and I liked them together both as a couple and, later, as friends).

I think most of the rebooting DC did last year was very arbitrary on the whole, I can see why they did it with Superman but there was no need at all to do it with Firestorm, the JSA, Wonder Woman, the Flash or Hawkman for example. Many of their characters really suffered because of it and some might never recover. When you alter Superman and Hawkman's looks as radically as this I think it's hard to not suspect this is all a passing fad... it is impossible to pretend these characters pasts and traditional looks don't matter.

Nontheless after a lot initial of misgivings I have got behind Earth-2. I can understand the reasons they've gone this route and James Robinson has begun constructing a worthy alternate earth that is interesting to explore.
Alan Scott is an odd one, to me he reads as far too perfect to be believable, The Flash on the other hand surprised me as I find him endearing with his naivity and boundless optimism. I've started appreciating the new take on Terry Sloan as well, a madman but a plausible one with understandable motivations. Earth-2 is a full scale reinvention of all of these characters, the downside to it is that by moving them to their own earth they are put in direct competition with the Justice League's popularity and recognition, furthermore there is an editorial edict not to have too many counterparts to Earth-1 characters which bizzarely means no Hawkman, Dick Grayson, Vandal Savage or Lex Luthor will be turning up on earth two.


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    I would enjoy WORLDS' FINEST if Helena Wayne was made a little similar to her pre-CRISIS self and Power Girl had a *complete* overhaul to her New 52 character. I *want* to like Helena Wayne but there isn't enough to go on and I liked the relationship she had with the Earth-2 Robin pre-Crisis.

I'm genuinly puzzled by your criticism of the Huntress as out of all of them she is the one virtually unchanged from her Pre-crisis self.
The costume is different obviously but her background and relationships are pretty much the same as they were. Dick Grayson is no longer there true but I can accept that omission. I know Helena Bertinelli had a fanbase but I'm afraid I was never one of them, I was too attached to the Helena Wayne origins for the character and found Levitz' twist in Issue #1 a good one.

I'm very attached to the original JSA, those 70s and 80s JLA/JSA team ups and Roy Thomas' work on them in early Infinity Inc for example are my defining moments for them all but the Crisis did a lot of damage to the JSA concept I thought. Erasing Earth 2 and the histories of Wonder Woman, Superman & Batman did a lot of damage, but when Geoff Johns revived the Earth-2 concept in the JSA Annual a few years ago it just wasn't the same, you really can't go home again as it looked and felt like it was stuck in a timewarp in the 1980s. Worse still some characters felt off by a mile - the Huntress and Power Girl ironically.

But I like the Earth 2 concept, hence I broadly like what James Robinson is aiming for. \(yes\)







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