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Tiger Shark

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Dr. Shallot

Subj: The Problem With 'Crisis' Events Is That They're Constantly Mishandled By Both Companies [SPOILERS]
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 11:19:32 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: On Vanko's Big News....Tiger More Or Less Predicted It [SPOILERS]
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 09:56:30 am EDT

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I've long been a proponent of a "crisis" like event for Marvel. Not a complete reset but more of a housecleaning in which characters can get a fresh start but not lose the bulk of their continuity. I agree, HOM was a golden opportunity and Marvel blew it. If Wanda's character was going to be besmirched the way it was at least something positive should have come out of it. NA wasn't it.

I simply can't believe Marvel would have made the effort to establish a new status quo with CW only to push a reset button and have everyone start at the beginning again. Unless this only affects Spidey and Cap?

As a longtime Spidey fan I'm aware of the baggage Peter carries around and I'd certainly like to see some of it jettisoned. Yet I'd rather have an EIC who doesn't believe that "event, event, event" is what reinvigorates a character, but rather give a talented team the time and creative freedom to pull him/her out of any slump.

I'd also put Peter at around the late twenties, and that's an age I can accept for the character. Surely they will have to be careful on how they age him in the future, I certainly don't want to see him having Doc Connors check his prostate any time soon.

What's the point of Ultimate Spider-man if Marvel was planning this event? I have my doubts about the validity of these claims.





> As I've said recently, when was the last time any of us thought of Peter Parker as a teen in the MU Proper, despite the SM films?
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> I haven't thought of him as a teen since the late 60s. To my way of thinking, he's at least 23-24 if not 28-30.
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> So I'm not surprised Marvel is taking him back to his teens (and thus perhaps make him more identifiable to film audiences), and reviving Cap in the process. Spidey's got a lot of baggage that should go, IMO.
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> This would be an excellent time to 'correct'/tweek a lot (I mean, A LOT) of other things too within the MU too, which they should have taken advantage of at the time of HOM, and didn't. At least Brubaker has fixed Lorna all on his own.
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> I wouldn't mind seeing CW go away either, though leaving the 50-state teams with us might not be a bad idea. Getting rid of the NA team (forever!) and changing back IM into a less than uber-impervious 'hero' might not be a bad idea either....this new IM just astinks on every level and is 100% uninteresting, not more so.
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> ...and while they're at it, making their huge cast of villians and criminals viable again, from the Wrecker and Mr. Hyde to Mephisto and Kang, would also be an excellent idea.



...and Vanko's news may be all bunk indeed.

But Marvel has had a few chances to fix things and they've either wasted those opportunities or made things worse (1,000,000 + boring ex-mutants, for example).

DC's last big event was a lot of fun but confusing as hell, and I don't know that it really made things clearer in the DC U.

I think Marvel needs to sit down, make a list of things they want to fix via such an event, and then work it all out carefully in terms of how they want to do it and how they want to the result to appear at the end. This, I think, they clearly didn't do with HOM and its aftermath.

Maybe Wanda will burp (or worse), maybe Nightmare or Eternity will have a fit of explosive vomiting, who knows.




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