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Halo82

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spiderprince

Subj: Re: A post CW Marvel and the SHRA is still a flaming pile of crap and Tony is an idiot.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 06:45:34 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: A post CW Marvel and the SHRA is still a flaming pile of crap and Tony is an idiot.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 06:37:53 pm EDT

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> I just read Captain America #25, NA #28, and Mighty Avengers #1 which has provoked some CW thoughts.

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> Now, to be fair, Ironman tried to make the best of a bad situation...but he's still a moron for supporting this. Here's a couple of points that have been argued in support of the SHRA.

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> The will of the people. Supposedly there the ones who want the SHRA but they didn't seem too happy when Cap was going to court being dragged around like a common criminal. What did there signs say? Oh yeah, "free Captain America" even though he broke the precious law. Hell, I even saw a few "SHRA is fascist" type signs in the crowd. So exactly which people are we talking about?



Not everyone is going to agree with any one side. Thats just unrealistic, especially considering that many people idolized Cap just prior to CW. Poeple still support him, but they are the minority.

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> Property damage. This is just plain stupid. In Mighty Avengers there fighting a bunch of giant monsters and Ms. Marvel is worried about property damage? Even worse the govt. is gonna give them a hard time about it? There's no good reason for that other then some far fetched example of a hospital losing power which is in no way shape or form the heroes fault since it's the VILLIANS who are to blame since they attacked in the first place. Everyone loves to use the Military as an example for the SHRA (which is specious) so do you really think the Marines would give a damn about property damage in a war?



Its just stupid? Tell that to people that are in the buildings as they are crumbling, or the people out in the streets when rumble started falling?



> Controlling things from within. Supposedly as director of SHIELD Ironman can keep things reasonable except that in Mighty Avengers he makes it clear he doesn't have control since if they don't bring in the New Avengers "they" will. Crap crap crap.



We don't even know what that means yet. Lets not jump the gun about his "total loss of control" when we aren't even sure what he means.

> Not everyone is going to agree with any one side. Thats just unrealistic, especially considering that many people idolized Cap just prior to CW. Poeple still support him, but they are the minority.

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I think your missing my point. I'm just saying it's fallacious to use the will of the people as an arguement when it's impossible to know what the people want. For all we know the people who support the SHRA are simply the outspoken minority. And whether it's the majority or minority is moot point since people are people.



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> Its just stupid? Tell that to people that are in the buildings as they are crumbling, or the people out in the streets when rumble started falling?

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Sure, no problem. I'll tell them they can deal with property damage or getting killed because heroes didn't oppose super villians.



> We don't even know what that means yet. Lets not jump the gun about his "total loss of control" when we aren't even sure what he means.



I know that Tony doesn't have as much control as others would like to think.


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