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Dan

Subj: Re: a question on the upcoming changes
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 08:26:47 pm CDT
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 06:11:59 pm CDT

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the idea of changing the comics so they are closer to the movies seems to be one that is being thrown around a lot and something that seems to be coming. My question is how do you change the x-men? besides the obvious idea of getting rid of all of the tedious characters that have been added in recent years, do you make the team all teens like was originally or make much of the team teens like in the movie?



obviously there have been pretty blatant changes made to the MU over the years. I believe you guys call it retcon (what is it short for or stand for btw?). This would seem to be daunting though since there are some major differences in the relationships in the comic that were changed drastically in the film. I guess my point would be to look at Iceman and Angel. In the film one is a young student, while the other just came to the school but is not yet an x-man. Of course we know that they both were originals in the comics. Will they change that?



even though I am not a hardcore reader, I would say I somewhat know my x-history (to a point....about issue #320 so long ago) and when I saw the movies I liked them, but I also think the story was dumbed down to neatly fit. So in that regard that is why I think that making the books like the films would be a disaster.



hopefully I made sense, but I am not sure I did



any thoughts?



> the idea of changing the comics so they are closer to the movies seems to be one that is being thrown around a lot and something that seems to be coming.

It's something that comics usually always do though, in some way, shape, or form, be it Harley Quinn in Batman, Kryptonite in Superman, or the X-Men wearing black leather costumes. But, the Vanko post on the alleged upcoming universe changing event that is supposed to bring the comics closer in mind to their movie version certainly had some of us talking here, that's for sure.

>My question is how do you change the x-men? besides the obvious idea of getting rid of all of the tedious characters that have been added in recent years,

That raises idea raises dilemmas all its own. One person's tedious character can be another's pet favorite.

>do you make the team all teens like was originally or make much of the team teens like in the movie?
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Not all of them were teens though and the movie took a lot of liberties with which characters it decided to show that way, IMO. Rogue never came off as that young to me in the comic, for instance.

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Retcon = retroactive continuity. It's basically adding or revealing new information 'now' that changes established or at least traditional 'historical' material.

>This would seem to be daunting though since there are some major differences in the relationships in the comic that were changed drastically in the film. I guess my point would be to look at Iceman and Angel. In the film one is a young student, while the other just came to the school but is not yet an x-man. Of course we know that they both were originals in the comics. Will they change that?
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I kind of hope not. It seems unnecessary to me. While I can understand and even slightly agree to a certain extent why they would want their characters to be recognizable in each media outlet through which they're presented to the public, I don't think it's to their benefit to have to always and so completely conform the comics version of the X-Men, Spider-Man, or whoever to match the movie or animated or whatever other version is currently 'hot'. What happens if say the movie franchise gets restarted like in the case of Batman Begins? Would Marvel have to revamp or reboot their continuity AGAIN to keep it in line w/ what the Spider-Man 4 director or whoever is planning on doing? It strikes me as being overcomplicated and unnecessary in some instances.

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> even though I am not a hardcore reader, I would say I somewhat know my x-history (to a point....about issue #320 so long ago) and when I saw the movies I liked them, but I also think the story was dumbed down to neatly fit. So in that regard that is why I think that making the books like the films would be a disaster.
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To me, the problem is for whatever lame story they do away with in such a universe altering fashion, they also do away with a lot of good ones too, and it basically becomes a question of is it worth it?

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