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Tiger Shark

In Reply To
Thatguy

Subj: He Gets His Butt Kicked, As You Say, Due To Writer Apathy [SPOILERS]
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:26:10 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: You miss the point
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:20:25 am EDT

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> > The rookies today ought to at least be on the level of Iron Man, Thor et all when they all started out. That's the level Gargoyle's stayed on and without a hook, will stay on.
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> But by that logic, that New Warriors character shouldn't have been able to defeat Gargoyle so easily. You assume she should be at the level that Thor was in his beginnings? Well, Thor had hard time defeating Gargoyle during their first encounter. By your logic, Wondra should have similar amount of trouble. But she defeats him with apparent ease.

First encounter, when Gargoyle was a new threat. These days, anyone with half a brain ought to know his powers and abilities and be able to counter them.
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> I'm not saying the Gargoyle should be a Magneto level threat, but come on... He's veteran villain, he should not run from a single hero like that.

He's a vet that's gotten his butt kicked how many times? He has no new tricks, no new tactics. IMO, he's just fallen behind the curve.

...just as we see today--and have seen since the early 90s--with 80% of Marvel's criminal antagonists, which represents hundreds, if not thousands, of bad guys.

It has nothing to do with the inherent value or powers of the GG. He's not Leap Frog. Thank God you're not a Marvel writer. 'The Griffin? He's just a big ugly cat with wings, and totally absurd!'

The Jester never had any super powers, but was a clever, intelligent, persistent, and very viable DD villain for decades.

Then the era of writer for enthusiasm/imagination for the Jester passed, and the poor Jester found himself yanked out as cannonfodder, which ended with CW, if in fact that was the first Jester and not the second.




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