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Subj: The running with the Bullpens...
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 at 01:45:09 am CDT
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 04:06:37 pm CDT

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X-Men
Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Beast, Rogue, Dazzler.
Base- New York.
I chose Cyclops to be the leader, with Wolverine as deputy. They should be vaguely at odds, but not literally at each other’s throats. I would give Gambit back his vision. I would give Nightcrawler his fencing swords (see the Legends video games), but perhaps give them a “stun” function so he’s not actually trying to eviscerate most foes. I want Beast to be more prominent, but to use his brain more-- give him a backpack with some simple gadgets. I’m not totally keen on Rogue having Sunfire’s powers, but I guess I can deal with it enough to keep her on the team. Dazzler I felt was robbed when she was phased out of the strip in the early 90’s. She needs a new, non-disco outfit. And of course, she keeps an Ipod with her at all times for sound.

Avengers
Black Panther, Spider-Man, Iceman, Firestar, Hercules, Falcon, Storm.
Focus- Atlantic Coast/beyond. I chose Black Panther because I want to see him back as an Avenger, and he’s never been the leader. Storm can be the co-leader/deputy. I put Spider-Man in because I’d like to keep him as an Avenger, and I want to see him interact with his Amazing Friends. Iceman has never been in a non-X-Team, so I want to see him on a different, non-mutant environment. Firestar has the benefit of having been an Avenger before. I put Falcon back on the team because I want to explore his bird-empathy more and clear up once and for all that he is an educated man (not just an ex-hustler!). I put Hercules on the team to be the super-muscle for the group (not that Spidey is a slouch, but he’s not class 100). I’d also like to explore what interactions, if any, Hercules has had with the African pantheon of gods.

Defenders
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Silver Surfer, Pulsar, Sentry.
After “Planet Hulk”, the Hulk has more familiarity with off-planet adventure. They could be a troubleshooting team on a pan-galactic scale. Their focus would be the highest level worldwide threats, including magic, and aliens. Dr. Strange would have access to different dimensions, and Silver Surfer has access to different galaxies. The Sentry would be a great asset, pitting him against tremendously powerful foes. Pulsar (Monica) would really have a chance to kick butt and use her powers to their maximum potential.

Champions
War Machine, Cage, Wonder Man, Thor, She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Angel.
Focus- Pacific Coast/beyond. I see the Angel setting up a new team, headquartered on the West coast but focused on both domestic and international problems. Cage wants to be more proactive- they can go to different countries, bust up drug cartels, attack regional warlords in places like Central America and Southeast Asia. I would bring back Donald Blake, and have him be a physician with “Doctors Without Boundaries” or a similar organization. Ms. Marvel can use her CIA contacts to find intel on hotspots of criminal activities.

X-Force
Cannonball, Mirage, Magik, Wolfsbane, Warlock, Sunspot, Karma.
With the 198 issue, worldwide “mutant rights” issues are drastically downscaled. Still, the world could use more super-teams in general. I want to see the “original” New Mutants back together again as a team- I’d base them in Colorado and Rio de Janiero (Magik’s teleportation would allow this). I’d give Mirage her desire/fear illusions power back, and the psychic arrows. If she maintains good relations with SHIELD, they could provide some tech assistance. Of course, Magik could teleport them just about anywhere they needed to go—and Warlock can transform himself into any vehicle.

X-Factor
Bishop, Cloak, Dagger, Psylocke, Shadowcat, Colossus, White Queen.
I would like to see this team investigate supernatural phenomenon, like the “X-Files”- some threats might truly be otherworldly (vampires, demons, bugbears, kobolds, etc.), and others might not. Bishop would be the leader, and I’d like to see his militant take on supernatural monsters. Shadowcat and White Queen would make for good ongoing tension. Cloak and Dagger haven’t often had to function in a larger team—much less with fellow mutants, so this is a good chance to explore that, as well as the quasi-mystical nature of their powers. Colossus makes for great muscle.


Things I'd suggest as your assistant editor...

> X-Men
> Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Beast, Rogue, Dazzler.
> Base- New York.
> I chose Cyclops to be the leader, with Wolverine as deputy. They should be vaguely at odds, but not literally at each other’s throats. I would give Gambit back his vision. I would give Nightcrawler his fencing swords (see the Legends video games), but perhaps give them a “stun” function so he’s not actually trying to eviscerate most foes. I want Beast to be more prominent, but to use his brain more-- give him a backpack with some simple gadgets. I’m not totally keen on Rogue having Sunfire’s powers, but I guess I can deal with it enough to keep her on the team. Dazzler I felt was robbed when she was phased out of the strip in the early 90’s. She needs a new, non-disco outfit. And of course, she keeps an Ipod with her at all times for sound.

-A way to nix the Rogue/Sunfire plot line would somehow have Rogue burning out the solar powers by transferring them in some way (there ya go, Hank figures it out and invents the means to do so), to Scott Summers (who absorbs solar energy for his eye-beams anyway.) thus re-empowering him since Whedon has made him powerless of late. And restores Mr. Shiro- 'I wanted to pay you back but I was a little short that day' -Yoshida. Returning Sunfire to basic status, or at least into the AOA version. Both are cool.
-I think after considerable time with a naive boyfriend/lover like Longshot, Dazzler might go for a more animalistic companion, and rekindling her romance from the Beauty & the Beast series, Hank McCoy gets the girl. Forever. Make it the start (or restart) of a timeless marvel mutant relationship.

>
> Avengers
> Black Panther, Spider-Man, Iceman, Firestar, Hercules, Falcon, Storm.
> Focus- Atlantic Coast/beyond. I chose Black Panther because I want to see him back as an Avenger, and he’s never been the leader. Storm can be the co-leader/deputy. I put Spider-Man in because I’d like to keep him as an Avenger, and I want to see him interact with his Amazing Friends. Iceman has never been in a non-X-Team, so I want to see him on a different, non-mutant environment. Firestar has the benefit of having been an Avenger before. I put Falcon back on the team because I want to explore his bird-empathy more and clear up once and for all that he is an educated man (not just an ex-hustler!). I put Hercules on the team to be the super-muscle for the group (not that Spidey is a slouch, but he’s not class 100). I’d also like to explore what interactions, if any, Hercules has had with the African pantheon of gods.
>
-Iceman was a founding Champion as well as a New Defender(s).
Other than that, I like your Avengers idea. Especially the Amazing Friends bit.
Maybe SHRA has tapered off some of the mutant bigotry, as the populace feels safer, the tolerance of the mutants has led to Xavier's senior class members to be more accepted and respected in society.
Storm's a wife and queen to T'Challa, so naturally she'd be around, but making Iceman an Avenger, and a likable one at that, (Cuz he would be. Whoever beat up a snowman?) is an awesome idea.
-Base them in Wakanda for awhile would be fun. Maybe like a mini-series called Avengers: Jungle Action.
-And a No Klaw clause! No Klaw for at least five years. He's never been a worthy adversary for T'Challa anyways. And I'm getting sick of every writer having to do Klaw stories somewhere in their run. But then again, visually a battle between Klaws sonic thingees versus Iceman's sculptures would be cool. (wait you know what? Bobby's always been a potential whatever-class-its-called mutant, so lets give him the ability to animate his ice creations to a degree) Sheathe the clause. If Klaw can make big pink elephants that move, Iceman can retaliate with big frozen water buffaloes to match.

> Defenders
> Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Silver Surfer, Pulsar, Sentry.
> After “Planet Hulk”, the Hulk has more familiarity with off-planet adventure. They could be a troubleshooting team on a pan-galactic scale. Their focus would be the highest level worldwide threats, including magic, and aliens. Dr. Strange would have access to different dimensions, and Silver Surfer has access to different galaxies. The Sentry would be a great asset, pitting him against tremendously powerful foes. Pulsar (Monica) would really have a chance to kick butt and use her powers to their maximum potential.
>

-Hmmm. I like the concept. Not a very defensive stance to take though, when you go somewhere else to kick dimensional ass. This book should be called The Invaders. Who cares if they took their name from a WW2 team? Namor was on it. Defenders sounds like a stay at home kinda team.
And it would have to alternate between the different types of stories it's potential encompasses. Never repeat the same cycle. Keep each story widely different than the previous one.
Lest it turn into a copy of the Exiles or the inevitable; 'Strangers in a Strange Land/We cant get home' 12-month storyarc. Which could be a longer time than waititng for a Watcher to break his code and text you back.

> Champions
> War Machine, Cage, Wonder Man, Thor, She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Angel.
> Focus- Pacific Coast/beyond. I see the Angel setting up a new team, headquartered on the West coast but focused on both domestic and international problems. Cage wants to be more proactive- they can go to different countries, bust up drug cartels, attack regional warlords in places like Central America and Southeast Asia. I would bring back Donald Blake, and have him be a physician with “Doctors Without Boundaries” or a similar organization. Ms. Marvel can use her CIA contacts to find intel on hotspots of criminal activities.
>
-You know what Angel needs? A good woman again. I nominate the Scarlet Witch. Don't laugh. Not Chaos-crazy Wanda, but a restored, renewed version. In a way these two go back to the earliest issues of X-Men. Warren should date the daughter of Magneto. See how mutant-tolerant the populace really is.

> X-Force
> Cannonball, Mirage, Magik, Wolfsbane, Warlock, Sunspot, Karma.
> With the 198 issue, worldwide “mutant rights” issues are drastically downscaled. Still, the world could use more super-teams in general. I want to see the “original” New Mutants back together again as a team- I’d base them in Colorado and Rio de Janiero (Magik’s teleportation would allow this). I’d give Mirage her desire/fear illusions power back, and the psychic arrows. If she maintains good relations with SHIELD, they could provide some tech assistance. Of course, Magik could teleport them just about anywhere they needed to go—and Warlock can transform himself into any vehicle.
>
-Mirage would rule like that. I agree, this team reunited as adults is ripe with story potential. Why not? The New Warriors grew up (well, those that didn't blow up) and became A-listers. New Mutants preceded them by a decade. Time for Xavier's third class to rise up a notch or three.
-And are we ready for a 'Dark Cypher'? if Warlock's back, can Doug Ramsey be far behind?


> X-Factor
> Bishop, Cloak, Dagger, Psylocke, Shadowcat, Colossus, White Queen.
> I would like to see this team investigate supernatural phenomenon, like the “X-Files”- some threats might truly be otherworldly (vampires, demons, bugbears, kobolds, etc.), and others might not. Bishop would be the leader, and I’d like to see his militant take on supernatural monsters. Shadowcat and White Queen would make for good ongoing tension. Cloak and Dagger haven’t often had to function in a larger team—much less with fellow mutants, so this is a good chance to explore that, as well as the quasi-mystical nature of their powers. Colossus makes for great muscle.
>
Brother Voodoo would fit right in here, he should be a frequent supporting character.
Hmm, Dagger, Betsy, Kitty & Emma. I think Howard the Duck might hang around as well for some odd reason.




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