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Subj: Re: Great - Just Keep In Mind That This Was The First Issue In An Arc.... [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 at 12:58:09 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Great - Just Keep In Mind That This Was The First Issue In An Arc.... [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 03:24:56 pm EDT

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...and so gives us quite a build up for things to come.

But after BEYOND!, I think McDuffie has proven that he understands the traditional, historic MU Proper in a way that Bendis, for instance, does not, nor Ellis, nor Millar (if the last two even try to).

McDuffie effortlessly (that's the key word to his talent) brings in the Black Panther, Storm, Deathlok, Gravity (in absentee), the Watcher, Starlight, Epoch....fluidly, and in cases where the characters already know one another to some degree, we seque right into the relationship/renewed friendship, believe it, and then go on with the story, very comfortably. He did this in BEYOND! as well.

Unlike in Bendis' stilted, irrational NA, where everyone seems to suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder, trust no one, not know themselves, and have endless mucky personal problems to boot..so the 'story' gets all caught up in a bunch of superfluous, boring, tedious mucky-muck instead of getting on with a solid story.

I, too, have cut most Marvel titles, but I think things are looking brighter now that CW is over and writers like Carey, Brubaker, Pak, McDuffie, Giffen, and others are getting their due.

Brubaker and Carey's X-books, Annihilation, Silent War, Pak's Hulk, now the FF (and Yes, even Bendis' Mighty Avengers so far, on the basis of a single issue, which felt more like the Avengers to me since anything since the short Johns era) are all promising and enjoyable. Despite the death, Captain America has also been interesting under Brubaker, who brought back Doctor Faustus and the Sleeper robots.

I WANT to buy more Marvel books, I really do, and can afford to; but like you, I won't buy repetitive stuff (like 'Wolverine,' which I gave two issues to move, but it remained constipated at the end of the second issue with more weird implants/dreams, and yet another 'all-out-and'final' confrontation with you-know-who) or badly-written, 'depressing,' unimginative, neo-noirish stuff, in which I have no interest.

A bunch of heroes with endless (and I mean endless) personal problems that take over the foreground of the title--no thanks.

Peace, and enjoy the FF!



> ...and so gives us quite a build up for things to come.
>
> But after BEYOND!, I think McDuffie has proven that he understands the traditional, historic MU Proper in a way that Bendis, for instance, does not, nor Ellis, nor Millar (if the last two even try to).

He "understands" it in a way the others don't? Isn't it all a matter of interpretation? McDuffie is great but I see nothing to indicate that he understands anything better. Its just how he choose to interpret it. Bendis and Millar usually have a noir-ish and grim side to their stories while McDuffie prefers to write his "high flying action issues".

I won't even get into his little continuity flop with The Watcher.

> McDuffie effortlessly (that's the key word to his talent) brings in the Black Panther, Storm, Deathlok, Gravity (in absentee), the Watcher, Starlight, Epoch....fluidly, and in cases where the characters already know one another to some degree, we seque right into the relationship/renewed friendship, believe it, and then go on with the story, very comfortably. He did this in BEYOND! as well.

Really? I thought it felt a little forced. Hardly anyone knows Deathlok, but they're hopping around into space for him to retrieve a body that some cosmic power appears to have serious plans for. It all seemed a bit knee jerk. No thought was given to what they were doing, or the implications or anything. Deathlok shows up, says the kids body is missing and they all blast off with no discussion. The story was great mind you, just that it happened a bit quickly with no thought given to ramifications.

> Unlike in Bendis' stilted, irrational NA, where everyone seems to suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder, trust no one, not know themselves, and have endless mucky personal problems to boot..so the 'story' gets all caught up in a bunch of superfluous, boring, tedious mucky-muck instead of getting on with a solid story.

I like Bendis' take on New Avengers. I personally don't like perfect heroes and especially with the new status of the team it seems like they all have reason not to smile.

I enjoy McDuffie's FF though, but I look at it differently. Its what I want out of an Fantastic Four story. I wouldn't want Bendis on the FF because the FF are adventurers and a family. I wouldn't want to see them broken down, distrustful of each other etc. Plus his storytelling can tend to drag on (although his Illuminati mini is pretty good).

In another vein I'm not sure I'd want to read Dwayne on Daredevil, or the Punisher or even New Avengers. I'd like to see his takes on Spider-Man and "classic" Avengers though.

> I, too, have cut most Marvel titles, but I think things are looking brighter now that CW is over and writers like Carey, Brubaker, Pak, McDuffie, Giffen, and others are getting their due.

Eh

> Brubaker and Carey's X-books, Annihilation, Silent War, Pak's Hulk, now the FF (and Yes, even Bendis' Mighty Avengers so far, on the basis of a single issue, which felt more like the Avengers to me since anything since the short Johns era) are all promising and enjoyable. Despite the death, Captain America has also been interesting under Brubaker, who brought back Doctor Faustus and the Sleeper robots.
>
> I WANT to buy more Marvel books, I really do, and can afford to; but like you, I won't buy repetitive stuff (like 'Wolverine,' which I gave two issues to move, but it remained constipated at the end of the second issue with more weird implants/dreams, and yet another 'all-out-and'final' confrontation with you-know-who) or badly-written, 'depressing,' unimginative, neo-noirish stuff, in which I have no interest.
>
> A bunch of heroes with endless (and I mean endless) personal problems that take over the foreground of the title--no thanks.
>
> Peace, and enjoy the FF!
>
>


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