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Attok12

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Tiger Shark

Subj: You Know I Just Have To Put My Two Cents In.... [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 09:25:59 am EDT
Reply Subj: Is The Initative Supposed to Be A Youth/Kiddy Book? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 03:18:20 pm EDT

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I'm rather surprised at the way some characters are portrayed, and the way a lot of the younger characters are continuously drawn making awkward, geeky, and juvenile expressions. If this is how this book will continue, and I'll give it a few more issues, No Thanks.

There's no reason that younger people have to be portrayed as weird, unsophisticated idiots.

I can't beleive that the Bengal, for instance, needs to be treated like a moron by his 'drill instructor,' a parody straight out of An Officer and A Gentleman, or that, seeing the way the others are being treated in some cases, that Stingray would stand casually by and receive similar orders.

And after what Triathlon went through in outer space with the 3-D Man and the Triune Understanding culprits at the end of Kurt's run, I hardly think he needs to be 'drafted' at this level.

I'm no fan of Slott's writing so far either, but I'm giving this book a few more issues to come around and start treating itself with respect.

But if it's a Generation X knock-off, I'll drop it.

Sad to think that Ultimo battled Iron Man for MUtime years to a stand-still, and here he's giving the Mighty Avengers a run for their money, and then some dinkbat named Armory takes him down in one blast (and puts a hole right through him, a big one), even though Ms. Marvel has just said Ultimo's armor is 'nearly indestructible.'

Is Slott thinking this all through, or just drumming it all up in the tub while collecting a fat paycheck?

WARNING! People who are sick of my complaints about Slott's writing better turn back. This is going to be brutal. Really brutal. If you continue on, it's your own fault if you don't like what you read. \:\-\)

Here we go....

Your drumming it all up in the tub line is probably correct. It wouldn't surprise me. I'm not sure how a writer can take someone like Ultimo, mention that he's nearly indestructible and then have him taken down with one shot that puts a hole through his "nearly indestructible" armor. Oh, wait, it's Slott. It's just another case of a writer creating a new, dull-as-dishwater character and, in his attempt to make the character a big bad-ass, has the person take out someone bigger and more important than him. This was the case with Grant Morrison and his crappy Fantomex character (when Darkstar was atrociously killed).

And I'm not surprised at the way the Bengel was treated. Slott's history with obscure characters has already been proven to be absolutely terrible at best (see the Big House storyline and his handling of a new Ani-Men for examples). I've heard this book will be featuring lots of obscure heroes and villains, but likely they'll all be used as cannon fodder, background material or in brief, let's-do-something-I-think-is-hilarious-that-I-think-other-people-will-think-the-same-thing cameos.

I didn't buy the issue, but I actually broke down and looked at the book in the store. Good Lord, I'm glad I spent my $2.99 on OMEGA FLIGHT #1 instead. I have heard from Slott, Marvel and people who work at MArvel that AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE is supposed to be vastly different than anything Slott has ever written, that's it's not supposed to be his trademark funny books like SHE-HULK. What a crock. Right off the bat, Slapstick shows up. Strike one. The Bengal scene. Strike two. And other stuff I saw. *gah* Whatever. And judging from the comments I've been seeing across the board, not too many other people liked the issue, either, and they've read the whole thing. Marvel jumped the gun by making this book an ongoing. I guess the readers assumed the book was going to be hot, since Slott was the one writing it, so everyone ordered it. Whoops.

That said, I like the 50-State Initiative idea. I like the Camp Hammond idea. I think, in the hands of an excellent writer, like Ed Brubaker for one, these ideas would swell into something interesting to read. But Dan Slott is not that writer.

End of rant. And I apologize for upsetting anyone who ventured into this thread, ignoring the warning. It's just my opinion. Have a nice day. \:\-\)


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