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Jeff Harvey

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spiderprince

Subj: I haven't been a teenager since Aug. 20, 1984, but..
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 08:57:00 am CDT
Reply Subj: Re: I'm a teen too... [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 07:40:56 am CDT

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> Nobody sent her to go take down Ultimo. She did that herself because she thought it would be cool as her own special little hero debut.

Yup. I don't think anyone is disputing that.

> In this case, the public is too reactive for them not to cover this up. What is being atempted in Stanford, the training of young superhumans who seem to need it desperately, is a good thing. An accident occurred. When youre dealing with kids who could kill people with their brain in highstress situations (and in the case of Armory, low stress situations) deadly situations can and will occur.

But the point of the base is to reduce the chances of that happening, which they completely failed at by placing these kids in such a situation without much forethought. Did Gauntlet even know what Trauma's powers were? Seems like he didn't.

> People die in basic training all the time. In Israel, they use real ammunition durring training excercises. Shit happens, but the greater good of what the army is trying to accomplish by training these soldiers trumps whatever the public might say if the deaths were heavily publisized. What happened to set off Armory was stupid beyond reason and could have happened anywhere one the base. notice that Trauma was not using his powers ON armory, but using them AROUND armory. Its not a physic image thing. He actually became a spider and was about to go mow down some robots.

I understand that, but sorry, I still fail to see how you don't hold Gauntlet responsible even a little. A simple "Hey, this could freak you out" would have worked for me.

> no, she freaked out and killed a guy with lasers because she couldnt handle seeing a giant spider. She proved herself to be unfit to use the vast and unlimited power she fell assbackwards into.

A giant spider that she, as an untrained hero, is deadly afraid of. The reason she's there is to get training to be able to handle stressful sitations, not thrown ass first into a situation like that with any sort of warning.
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> > Nobody sent her to go take down Ultimo. She did that herself because she thought it would be cool as her own special little hero debut.
>
> Yup. I don't think anyone is disputing that.
>
> > In this case, the public is too reactive for them not to cover this up. What is being atempted in Stanford, the training of young superhumans who seem to need it desperately, is a good thing. An accident occurred. When youre dealing with kids who could kill people with their brain in highstress situations (and in the case of Armory, low stress situations) deadly situations can and will occur.
>
> But the point of the base is to reduce the chances of that happening, which they completely failed at by placing these kids in such a situation without much forethought. Did Gauntlet even know what Trauma's powers were? Seems like he didn't.
>
> > People die in basic training all the time. In Israel, they use real ammunition durring training excercises. Shit happens, but the greater good of what the army is trying to accomplish by training these soldiers trumps whatever the public might say if the deaths were heavily publisized. What happened to set off Armory was stupid beyond reason and could have happened anywhere one the base. notice that Trauma was not using his powers ON armory, but using them AROUND armory. Its not a physic image thing. He actually became a spider and was about to go mow down some robots.
>
> I understand that, but sorry, I still fail to see how you don't hold Gauntlet responsible even a little. A simple "Hey, this could freak you out" would have worked for me.
>
> > no, she freaked out and killed a guy with lasers because she couldnt handle seeing a giant spider. She proved herself to be unfit to use the vast and unlimited power she fell assbackwards into.
>
> A giant spider that she, as an untrained hero, is deadly afraid of. The reason she's there is to get training to be able to handle stressful sitations, not thrown ass first into a situation like that with any sort of warning.
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The overall head of this project is Anthony Stark, a man whose armor was once overridden, resulting in the death of an ambassador, who killed the Gremlin by his overzealous actions during the "Armor Wars" and who wore the armor several times under the influence of alcohol just before the second alcoholism storyarc (the Denny O'Neill-written one, IIRC.)Henry Grych, a man who would have every hero murdered, is also highly-involved. So, throwing a person out of this program is hypocritical.


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