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Sandman

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Jovian

Subj: Re: not sure which one I tore up, the one with the all the heroes on it. also, [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 10:59:05 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: not sure which one I tore up, the one with the all the heroes on it. also, [SPOILERS]
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 10:45:08 pm EDT

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> Jim Rhodes might be like She-Hulk and perhaps doesn't know what's really going on. Like Spider-Man did, Jim is trusting Tony on knowing what he's doing, but that might change later on.
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heh. now this has me wondering. and I cant check, because I destroyed my copy \(lol\) , but was Rhodes there in the control booth when Trauma accidently killed MVP?

and even if he wasnt, he sure had to be in there for them stealing that poor girls powerful device. Which is essentially what they did. It's almost...if you think about it, maybe a setup from the getgo. And that it wasnt an accident. That getting their grubby paws on that extremely powerful device, which they made the point of proving when it brought down Ultron \(\?\) in one shot, was their only motivation.

And when you think about it, how much of a betrayal of trust was that? That girl, with the uber weap, registers and puts her trust in the government. And they completely f*ck her over.

> I really don't like the sound of "winning the arms race". It makes me think that they'll start invading other countries that they find threating because of their superhumans. The Marvel US seems to be heading towards becoming the new Genosha

I's turning into the Ultimate Universe. Which sucks, even though I love the Ultimate Universe , I dont need two.

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> I'm very displeased on how the pro-regs are doing things.
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Can we be surprised? We all knew it wasn't a good idea. (But Reed said 'it must be done' because of his Issac Asimov theory, and threw his invaluable faculties behind the shra. Which in my opinion and now getting completely off the topic at hand, but if Reed was not pro reg, the act would have died a slow painful death. Reed was crucial to its success.)

> As for Armory, the grown ups screwed up when they had Trauma use his powers on a powerful girl and then say that it's "her" fault just like they did in the Civil War. The pro-regs aren't super-heroes anymore if they're going to be this irresponsible. It's pathetic and Pym is back to being the loser super-hero wannabe. I hope at least the Gauntlet is going to have a talk with someone in charge if he's going to train these kids because Armory wasn't like the New Warriors, she was affected by someone else's powers.
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Exactly. The sheer volume of irresponsibility by the government (which I will refer to all pro-regger's as.) is staggering. And they have the audacity to speak to unkindly of the New Warriors, on the same ground they lost their lives no less. Are you kidding me here?

This book was atrocious.

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> > Jim Rhodes might be like She-Hulk and perhaps doesn't know what's really going on. Like Spider-Man did, Jim is trusting Tony on knowing what he's doing, but that might change later on.
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> heh. now this has me wondering. and I cant check, because I destroyed my copy \(lol\) , but was Rhodes there in the control booth when Trauma accidently killed MVP?
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> and even if he wasnt, he sure had to be in there for them stealing that poor girls powerful device. Which is essentially what they did. It's almost...if you think about it, maybe a setup from the getgo. And that it wasnt an accident. That getting their grubby paws on that extremely powerful device, which they made the point of proving when it brought down Ultron \(\?\) in one shot, was their only motivation.

No to both, Rhodes was no where in those two scenes. There were only three grown ups there. Rhodes was actually lured into this by Tony and wasn't really pleased with this.
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> And when you think about it, how much of a betrayal of trust was that? That girl, with the uber weap, registers and puts her trust in the government. And they completely f*ck her over.

It looks to me that the pro-reg "heroes" are saving themselves while fooling themselves on doing the right thing.
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> > I really don't like the sound of "winning the arms race". It makes me think that they'll start invading other countries that they find threating because of their superhumans. The Marvel US seems to be heading towards becoming the new Genosha
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> I's turning into the Ultimate Universe. Which sucks, even though I love the Ultimate Universe , I dont need two.
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> > I'm very displeased on how the pro-regs are doing things.
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> Can we be surprised? We all knew it wasn't a good idea. (But Reed said 'it must be done' because of his Issac Asimov theory, and threw his invaluable faculties behind the shra. Which in my opinion and now getting completely off the topic at hand, but if Reed was not pro reg, the act would have died a slow painful death. Reed was crucial to its success.)

Yeah, but Reed revealed that he's against the militarization of superhumans which is why he refused to help Tony on convincing Black Panther to returning to his country and probably why he's been helping Spider-Man in the shadows.
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> > As for Armory, the grown ups screwed up when they had Trauma use his powers on a powerful girl and then say that it's "her" fault just like they did in the Civil War. The pro-regs aren't super-heroes anymore if they're going to be this irresponsible. It's pathetic and Pym is back to being the loser super-hero wannabe. I hope at least the Gauntlet is going to have a talk with someone in charge if he's going to train these kids because Armory wasn't like the New Warriors, she was affected by someone else's powers.
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> Exactly. The sheer volume of irresponsibility by the government (which I will refer to all pro-regger's as.) is staggering. And they have the audacity to speak to unkindly of the New Warriors, on the same ground they lost their lives no less. Are you kidding me here?

Nitro was amped up by MGH which was given by the guy who who was running Damage Control at the time and seems to have a connection with a government official since he was heading towards the state capital in his car when he was getting a cell phone call from Nitro in a Wolverine issue. The New Warriors were probably being led into a trap and the corrupted faction of S.H.I.E.L.D. is probably part of it since they tried to get Captain America out of the way before the act became law.

Since the beginning this all seemed like a set up to make the super-heroes look bad and the New Warriors were perfect because of their reality TV show which had millions of viewers and someone had to tell them where the super-villains were and Nitro was probably expecting them and overdid it with the explosion. Sadly, Iron Man and the pro-regs are too foolish to see this and may end up rightfully humiliated after this is over, like Tony not really being in charge of S.H.I.E.L.D. like he thought since he probably got the position to make him easier to manipulate.

The "new" New Warrior series may end up revealing more clues on what was really going on.
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> This book was atrocious.