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zeus

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Omar Karindu

Subj: help me out here...
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 06:05:45 pm EDT
Reply Subj: No, it's a classic "wrongfoot" writer's trick... [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 04:20:05 pm EDT

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It looks like it's going to be a Harry Potter meets Full Metal Jacket setup, but right from the start we're cued in that things are off, wrong, screwed-up, to wit:

-- The "drill sergeant from Hell" character, Gauntlet, doesn't want to be a drill sergeant and actually doesn't want to train the recruits.

-- Every single civilian characetr shown in the comic is uneasy about the training camp, and especially about it's being sited at Stamford.

-- Justice is already exspressing plenty of concerns at the vilification of the New Warriors as part of the training regimen; this vilification is also further evidence of how little Gauntlet actually wants to be doing what he's doing.

-- The science staff at the base are all villainous: Curt Connors went mad in Spider-Man some years back, and the German guy's origin is fairly obvious.

Despite those hints, Slott deliberately goes through the classic boot camp/sports film cliches with MVP, setting him up with his little romance, playing up his "decent kid gets a second shot" gimmick, and even giving him his big heroic moment of saving the girl.

And then he pays off all the little hints of uneasiness, and plays against his own rep as a light comedy writer, by blowing MVP's head off, and playing Gyrich and the new characters as completely compromised. 9Notice that the death scene is carefully set up so that only Gyrich, Gauntlet, and the Nazi scientist are witnesses to what actually happens.)

We're not being set up for kid's stuff and hijinks. We're being set up for a rather dark little book...and given everyone who "won" Civil War -- not just Iron Man and the good version of the MU government, after all -- I'm not sure what people really expected here. Day-glo colors and cheerful fun? In a government training camp for people who don't seem to get a choice about being there?

> I'm rather surprised at the way some characters are portrayed, and the way a lot of the younger characters are continuously drawn making awkward, geeky, and juvenile expressions. If this is how this book will continue, and I'll give it a few more issues, No Thanks.
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> There's no reason that younger people have to be portrayed as weird, unsophisticated idiots.
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> I can't beleive that the Bengal, for instance, needs to be treated like a moron by his 'drill instructor,' a parody straight out of An Officer and A Gentleman, or that, seeing the way the others are being treated in some cases, that Stingray would stand casually by and receive similar orders.
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> And after what Triathlon went through in outer space with the 3-D Man and the Triune Understanding culprits at the end of Kurt's run, I hardly think he needs to be 'drafted' at this level.
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> I'm no fan of Slott's writing so far either, but I'm giving this book a few more issues to come around and start treating itself with respect.
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> But if it's a Generation X knock-off, I'll drop it.
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> Sad to think that Ultimo battled Iron Man for MUtime years to a stand-still, and here he's giving the Mighty Avengers a run for their money, and then some dinkbat named Armory takes him down in one blast (and puts a hole right through him, a big one), even though Ms. Marvel has just said Ultimo's armor is 'nearly indestructible.'
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> Is Slott thinking this all through, or just drumming it all up in the tub while collecting a fat paycheck?

- Omar Karindu

"A Renoir. I have three, myself. I had four, but ordered one burned...It
displeased me." -- Doctor Doom

"It's not, 'Oh, they killed Sue Dibney and I always loved that character,' it's 'Oh, they broke a story engine that could have told a thousand stories in order to publish a single 'important' one.'" -- John Seavey

All good points. One problem I see in the running of this camp is that some people (Gyrich, Gauntlet) think they're training soldiers, and some (Yellowjacket, Justice) think they're training super-heroes. They're gonna have to make up thier minds fast if they plan on most of these kids surviving.

> -- The science staff at the base are all villainous: Curt Connors went mad in Spider-Man some years back, and the German guy's origin is fairly obvious.
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Help me put 2 and 2 together here Omar. Tell me about the German guy.

> Despite those hints, Slott deliberately goes through the classic boot camp/sports film cliches with MVP, setting him up with his little romance, playing up his "decent kid gets a second shot" gimmick, and even giving him his big heroic moment of saving the girl.
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> And then he pays off all the little hints of uneasiness, and plays against his own rep as a light comedy writer, by blowing MVP's head off, and playing Gyrich and the new characters as completely compromised. 9Notice that the death scene is carefully set up so that only Gyrich, Gauntlet, and the Nazi scientist are witnesses to what actually happens.)
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Right. The "soldier trainers", not the "hero trainers".

And on a semi-related note, we haven't seen Bengal or Stingray training yet. If the hero trainers have thier way, Bengal & Stingray will probably get to skip basic training, and get something a bit more customized. If the soldier trainers get thier way, they'll probably have to go through everything just like the new recruits...


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