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BlakGard

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Skippy

Subj: Re: Characters immune to mind-control
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 08:04:47 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Characters immune to mind-control
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 11:44:12 am EDT

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> > Iron Man
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> Not immune to mind-control, as Yinsen what's-his-name showed us.

Back in Thunderbolts #12 he is the only one not affected by Zemo's mind-control when the rest of the Avengers are under his thrall. He explains that, after being mind-controlled so many times, he built safe-guards against it into his armor.
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> > Magneto
>
> Not immune to mind-control. What Xavier did to him is a form of mind-control. Xorn temporarily controlled him.

If we're talking about the Collective incident, Xorn and the rest of the mutant energy took over his body. It is clearly shown that his mind was still his own in those scenes. I suppose Sublime managed to influence him, but only after the Sublime bacteria was ingested into his body. His helmet, on many, many occassions, has been stated to make him immune to telepathic attacks from Xavier, much like Juggernaut's, which is why I included him on the list.
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> > Juggernaut
>
> Only with his helmet on. Once it's off, he's a normal guy when it comes to mind-control.

Right.
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> > Sage
>
> Not immune to mind-control. Elias Bogan ring any bells?

Didn't read X-Treme X-Men, but my understanding was that, as long as she doesn't use her telepathy in an active fashion, she can use it in a passive way, protecting her mind from outward telepathic influence.
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> > Jessica Jones
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> Not immune to mind-control. Purple Man really messed her up through mind-control.

And after that happened Jean Grey messed with her mind to make her immune to it in the future.

There are definitely few characters that are completely immune, but I think there are definitely some who have certain methods of resistance. Perhaps I worded the question incorrectly. Also, as was pointed out by another poster, the writer probably has a lot to do with it. How many Iron Man writers do you think even remember or care about the passing reference from Thunderbolts #12?

I suppose this is a more difficult question than I may have originally assumed. Ah well. Thanks for the input, everyone.

- Skippy

> > > Iron Man
> >
> > Not immune to mind-control, as Yinsen what's-his-name showed us.
>
> Back in Thunderbolts #12 he is the only one not affected by Zemo's
> mind-control when the rest of the Avengers are under his thrall. He
> explains that, after being mind-controlled so many times, he built
> safe-guards against it into his armor.

Still wouldn't say immune.

> > > Magneto
> >
> > Not immune to mind-control. What Xavier did to him is a form of
> > mind-control. Xorn temporarily controlled him.
>
> If we're talking about the Collective incident, Xorn and the rest of
> the mutant energy took over his body. It is clearly shown that his
> mind was still his own in those scenes. I suppose Sublime managed to
> influence him, but only after the Sublime bacteria was ingested into
> his body. His helmet, on many, many occassions, has been stated to
> make him immune to telepathic attacks from Xavier, much like
> Juggernaut's, which is why I included him on the list.

During the Collective incident, Our Lord Magneto only had a very weak level of control over himself (just enough to tell the New Avengers to kill him). The rest of him was under the control of Xorn.

> > > Sage
> >
> > Not immune to mind-control. Elias Bogan ring any bells?
>
> Didn't read X-Treme X-Men, but my understanding was that, as long as
> she doesn't use her telepathy in an active fashion, she can use it in
> a passive way, protecting her mind from outward telepathic influence.

Protection, sure. Everybody has various degrees of protection from mind-control. She's been mind-controlled by at least Elias Bogan and the android The Fury, and possibly even Xavier, himself.

> > > Jessica Jones
> >
> > Not immune to mind-control. Purple Man really messed her up through
> > mind-control.
>
> And after that happened Jean Grey messed with her mind to make her
> immune to it in the future.

Again, I wouldn't say immune. Such things have to be maintained, as well, just like practicing martial arts, or they fall to entropy.
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