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BlakGard

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Dark Marvel

Subj: Re: Whoa wait a second...
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 at 01:07:34 am EDT
Reply Subj: Whoa wait a second...
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 08:51:30 pm EDT

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> Tony and co have:
> -Violated bioethics by cloning Thor

Is there a law against cloning Gods? I know there is one that applies to humans...Gods...not so sure plus to mention the fact that this was a cyborg

> -Nearly started a war by unleashing the Green Goblin

***Yeah they did that.

> -Manipulated the populace in a negative way

***Whats the law on that?

> -Thrown people in prison without a trial

People are put in jail without trial all the time...Thats where they stay bfore thier trial begins and we know that they eventually would have gotten one...Speedball was getting set for his and he was the first


> -Profitted from a war they helped set-up

War takes 2 sides...If cap had followed the law the war wouldnt have been started in the first place.


> -Enslaved and unleashed murderous super-villains

Nobody has been enslaved...they had a choice the murderous super villains were put on leashes.

> -Arguable responsible for the death of Bill Foster either as negilgant homicide or manslaughter

***That was certainly unfortunate...but also can be seen as a pure accident.

> -Destroyed Planet Skaara (I'm still not clear if this was an accident or if they actually left a bomb to try and kill the hulk if he ever tried to leave)

***Exactly we are not sure and it is looking like an accident one with the fact it happened so long after he landed and it said warp core breach whch sounds like there was something broken

> -Covered-up the death of a student and perhaps set the whole thing up to acquire some technology

***% to 1 odds that MVP is still alive.


> -Allowed a mentally unstable power house into stressful situations and recruited a known sociopath on the same team

***What law is this? They allowed the greatest hero the world has ever known to become an Avenger and Ares technically is a diplomat as he is part of a royal family...I dont see a law being broken here


> -Stole the Terrigan Mists from the Inhumans and refused to return it possible starting another war

***1st this hasn't anything to do with pro reg. 2nd what could be seen as a weapon was used on citizens of earth and has been confiscated as a weapon because of national security.

> -Plotting the overthrow of forgein governments that oppose the current U. S. Policy

***When did they plot this? They are keeping the possibility open in case it becomes necessary which imo is a smart move in case other countries try to go at the USA.
>
> Did I miss anything?
>
> P. S. I know all of this isn't Tony Stark, only about half of it. That is why I said Tony and Co. however he is the primary leader and has his hand in just about everything some way or another.

> > Tony and co have:
> > -Violated bioethics by cloning Thor
>
> Is there a law against cloning Gods? I know there is one that
> applies to humans...Gods...not so sure plus to mention the fact that
> this was a cyborg

Technically, there isn't even a law against cloning humans at the moment (not in the real world, at least). There is just a law prohibiting the use of federal funds to pay for research into human cloning.

> > -Manipulated the populace in a negative way
>
> ***Whats the law on that?

Yeah. More of an ethical thing.

> > -Thrown people in prison without a trial
>
> People are put in jail without trial all the time...Thats where they
> stay bfore thier trial begins and we know that they eventually would
> have gotten one...Speedball was getting set for his and he was the
> first

Not according to Tony one occasion. "No trials," he said.

> > -Profitted from a war they helped set-up
>
> War takes 2 sides...If cap had followed the law the war wouldnt have
> been started in the first place.

Not true. The "war" started before there was even a law, and Cap didn't start it.

> > -Enslaved and unleashed murderous super-villains
>
> Nobody has been enslaved...they had a choice the murderous super
> villains were put on leashes.

That is still the legal definition of enslavement.

> > -Arguable responsible for the death of Bill Foster either as
> > negilgant homicide or manslaughter
>
> ***That was certainly unfortunate...but also can be seen as a pure
> accident.

Thus "negligent homicide or manslaughter."

> > -Covered-up the death of a student and perhaps set the whole thing
> > up to acquire some technology
>
> ***% to 1 odds that MVP is still alive.

I'm kind of liking the theory that it was only an LMD and the real MVP is being prepped to be the new Cap.

> > -Allowed a mentally unstable power house into stressful situations
> > and recruited a known sociopath on the same team
>
> ***What law is this? They allowed the greatest hero the world has ever known to become an Avenger and Ares technically is a diplomat as he is part of a royal family...I dont see a law being broken here

Does the Marvel US have a diplomatic relationship with Olympia?
Does the Marvel US even recognize the status of Olympia?

> > -Stole the Terrigan Mists from the Inhumans and refused to return
> > it possible starting another war
>
> ***1st this hasn't anything to do with pro reg. 2nd what could be
> seen as a weapon was used on citizens of earth and has been
> confiscated as a weapon because of national security.

This doesn't exempt them. But yeah, this was a US/O*N*E thing. Not a pro-reg thing. There are no "citizens of Earth" though, and it's questionable if US forces had any authority on Genosha.
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