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Thatguy

In Reply To
MysteryMan

Subj: Re: Seriously?
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 at 01:06:53 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Seriously?
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 at 12:58:16 pm EDT

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> > > > Thats YOUR opinion...many of us don't happen to see the word clone and think Evil.
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> > > So if a friend of yours took your DNA without asking for permission and used it to create brainwashed cyborg clone to send after your *other* friend... you wouldn't consider it evil?
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> > > Just asking... \:\-D
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> > That depends...what if I had these amazing powers to do good but was taken out of the equation.
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> > Years later I come back and my friends tells me he used some of my DNA to help preserve democracy from another of my friends who thought he was better then everyone else. That his personal opinion weighed in for more then millions. And that even though he tried to talk with him about it time and time again that that other friend wouldnt talk and just kept punching away... I might not consider it evil.
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> Key factor here is consent. Thor, as far as we know, didn't. Even setting aside Clor's use as a weapon, that automatically makes it unethical.

Does it? If someone is thought dead...and the DNA they left behind could save lives is it unethical? Just by being a member of the Avengers Thor probably signed off on something like this. He was a member of the Avengers when they were a govt. funded teal with govt. backing...if the samples of his DNA came from that time who is to say it is unethical?

> And yeah, don't think Thor wouldn't side with Captain America over Iron Man ;\)

Maybe he would maybe he wouldnt...but after his lessons of KThor and how he put his own agenda over everyone else's and how that came back and bit him...how his "super powered" Gods decided things and not puny mortals...he just might side with Tony.

> > > > > Thats YOUR opinion...many of us don't happen to see the word clone and think Evil.
> > > >
> > > > So if a friend of yours took your DNA without asking for permission and used it to create brainwashed cyborg clone to send after your *other* friend... you wouldn't consider it evil?
> > > >
> > > > Just asking... \:\-D
> > >
> > > That depends...what if I had these amazing powers to do good but was taken out of the equation.
> > >
> > > Years later I come back and my friends tells me he used some of my DNA to help preserve democracy from another of my friends who thought he was better then everyone else. That his personal opinion weighed in for more then millions. And that even though he tried to talk with him about it time and time again that that other friend wouldnt talk and just kept punching away... I might not consider it evil.
> >
> > Key factor here is consent. Thor, as far as we know, didn't. Even setting aside Clor's use as a weapon, that automatically makes it unethical.
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> Does it? If someone is thought dead...and the DNA they left behind could save lives is it unethical? Just by being a member of the Avengers Thor probably signed off on something like this. He was a member of the Avengers when they were a govt. funded teal with govt. backing...if the samples of his DNA came from that time who is to say it is unethical?

They didn't use Thor's DNA to cure cancer, they used it to create a weapon. Stop trying to imply it's anything else.

And it doesn't matter where the DNA came from, they need Thor's consent to experiment with it. Without that, it's automatically unethical regardless of the hurdles they faced.
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> > And yeah, don't think Thor wouldn't side with Captain America over Iron Man ;\)
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> Maybe he would maybe he wouldnt...but after his lessons of KThor and how he put his own agenda over everyone else's and how that came back and bit him...how his "super powered" Gods decided things and not puny mortals...he just might side with Tony.

King Thor would also teach Thor what happens when the government has all the power. King Thor happened in large part because no one was powerful enough to stop him, and Thor kept a monopoly on that power. Just like the registration act does.