Dave Galanter
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Tiger Shark

In Reply To
Dr. Shallot

Subj: Interesting [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 02:14:31 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Question about Loeb's Wolverine [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 02:05:02 pm EDT

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> Not that I've been reading Loeb's arc, but if the Lupine backstory is true, doesn't that mean Loeb is borrowing story elements from Chuck Austen of all people? After all, Austen submitted the idea of " tribes " of mutant offshoots before Loeb....

I'm not reading Wolverine either, but the basic premise of the idea doesn't sound too much different than what Krueger and Ross did with the EarthX/UniverseX/ParadiseX series. From Wikipedia(I know...not always accurate but it does seem to be what I remember from that series):
"According to the information in the Earth X miniseries Paradise X: Heralds, the second child of the Howletts died in childbirth and the Howletts found and adopted an infant member of the Moon Clan, a bestial race which has co-existed with humanity for hundreds of thousands of years. This Clan, which is also dubbed wolf clan, were mortal enemies of the Bear Clan, to which Sabretooth belongs. Supposedly, it is this Moon Tribe child who was named James Howlett and would grow up to become Wolverine explaining the enmity between Wolverine and Sabretooth in this alternate reality.

It is also revealed that this seemingly divergent sub-species is in fact what the "true" human species would have become if not for the Celestials' intervention and genetic tampering."

In this series Wolverine in actuality wasn't a mutant at all. At least he got stuck with Madelyne Pryor when he thought he was getting Jean. >:-)

...it does seem to me that Loeb is going out on a huge limb by---so far---inferring that Sasquatch, Sabertooth, and Logan (and the others) are all descendants from the Lupine tribe...I didn't even know Sasquatch was a mutant(!).

Perhaps Loeb is only inferring this, and Sabertooth will turn out to be from the 'bear' tribe or simian tribe or some other....nothing is very clear yet, but what he seems to be saying is that Yes, all of these characters (sans Ororo and T'Challa) are Lupines. Howver, Loeb may be misleading us on purpose.

Where the rest of these present-day Lupines--the regular ones who like like Werevolves---have been hiding or living (with, perhaps, the exception of the Savage Land Mutate 'Lupo') is beyond me. In the flashbacks, which take place in a Stone Age, there's what looks like thousands of them, and maybe millions. You'd think some fossil bones would have been discovered by now.

What exactly Weapon X has to do with Wildchild a this exact point remains to be seen. I thought the program was 100% defunct.

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