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Michael

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MysteryMan

Subj: Re: It hasnt worked any better then a unified one...
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 10:24:12 pm EDT
Reply Subj: It hasnt worked any better then a unified one...
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 03:56:58 pm EDT

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> > > > > > ***A skrull would have pushed for the chaos that was pre-SHRA.
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> > > > > ...harder for a unified resistance to form against them.
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> > > > are you saying the marvel heroes are now more unified now than pre-SHRA? *gah*
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> > > Not even close to unified. Based on half of the comics from the last year, i'd say there's severe disorganization as well.
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> > > Seriously, I know the IDEA is cool, but anyone who salutes the SHRA is not thouroughly reading the stories imo.
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> > the 50 state initiative is a heck of a lot more organized then what was going on before.
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> > Seriously,the IDEA is cool, but anyone who does not salute the SHRA is not thouroughly reading any stories other then the 2 or 3 anti-SHRA storybooks out there.
> You're missing the point. A unified organization is easier to infiltrate than several seperate ones. Not only that, the "several seperate organizations" model has worked in the MU for years, against everyone from Wraiths to Surtur to the Beyonder. Veranke was right. Tony is the greatest hero the Skrulls have ever known.
> Michael

...the status quo always resets...do you think the Skrulls will really win this? Are you advocating 100 individual spy agencies all working for 100 different little goivernments within the USA?

This new model is working better then before. It has been stated and shown over and over that crime is at an all time low...due to SHRA.

The Skrulls started their invasion LOOOOOOOONNGGG before SHRA. Backl when Fury was in charge under "your old system". You could just as easily say...the old system is the greatest asset the Skrulls have ever had...
1)They were allowed to keep attempting take over after take over
2)Being so disorganized the Skrulls were easily able to infiltrate the heroes over the last "fill in the blank years".

To make this kind of argument you have to look at when they FIRST started infiltrating...and when was that? After Galactus ate their homeworld...guess what? That was your "old way/system".

> > > > > > > ***A skrull would have pushed for the chaos that was pre-SHRA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...harder for a unified resistance to form against them.
> > > > >
> > > > > are you saying the marvel heroes are now more unified now than pre-SHRA? *gah*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not even close to unified. Based on half of the comics from the last year, i'd say there's severe disorganization as well.
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, I know the IDEA is cool, but anyone who salutes the SHRA is not thouroughly reading the stories imo.
> > >
> > > the 50 state initiative is a heck of a lot more organized then what was going on before.
> > >
> > > Seriously,the IDEA is cool, but anyone who does not salute the SHRA is not thouroughly reading any stories other then the 2 or 3 anti-SHRA storybooks out there.
> > You're missing the point. A unified organization is easier to infiltrate than several seperate ones. Not only that, the "several seperate organizations" model has worked in the MU for years, against everyone from Wraiths to Surtur to the Beyonder. Veranke was right. Tony is the greatest hero the Skrulls have ever known.
> > Michael
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> ...the status quo always resets...do you think the Skrulls will really win this? Are you advocating 100 individual spy agencies all working for 100 different little goivernments within the USA?
>
> This new model is working better then before. It has been stated and shown over and over that crime is at an all time low...due to SHRA.
>
> The Skrulls started their invasion LOOOOOOOONNGGG before SHRA. Backl when Fury was in charge under "your old system". You could just as easily say...the old system is the greatest asset the Skrulls have ever had...
> 1)They were allowed to keep attempting take over after take over
> 2)Being so disorganized the Skrulls were easily able to infiltrate the heroes over the last "fill in the blank years".
>
> To make this kind of argument you have to look at when they FIRST started infiltrating...and when was that? After Galactus ate their homeworld...guess what? That was your "old way/system".
Yeah, but one of the top three people in charge of your "new system" is a Skrull. And the other two were the idiots whose screwup enabled the Skrulls to become undetectable.Now we've got a Skrull in every state. Moreover, Tony's actions divided the heroes and made them hate each other.
Michael


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