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Michael

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MysteryMan

Subj: Re: Thats not even close to being clear....
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 01:21:57 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Thats not even close to being clear....
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 09:51:10 am EDT

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> > > > To make this kind of argument you have to look at when they FIRST started infiltrating...and when was that? After Galactus ate their homeworld...guess what? That was your "old way/system".
> > > Yeah, but one of the top three people in charge of your "new system" is a Skrull. And the other two were the idiots whose screwup enabled the Skrulls to become undetectable.Now we've got a Skrull in every state. Moreover, Tony's actions divided the heroes and made them hate each other.
> > > Michael
> >
> > Um, no, that was Cap's actions which divided the heroes not Tony (who has twice managed to unify all the heroes, both during World War Hulk and now, for Secret Invasion). Besides, we don't KNOW that it was the Illuminati (including Tony and Reed) that allowed the skrulls to become undetectable, not for certain.
> Cap only started resisting the SHRA violently when the supporters tried to arrest him for a hypothetical statement during a conversation. And yes, we do KNOW that it was the Illuminati that allowed the Skrulls to become undetectable. Bendis devoted an entire issue of New Avengers to explaining it.

They didnt allow them to become undetectable at all...thats a silly argument. Heroes get captured ALL the time...this time the skrulls did some delving afterwards...you cant blame them for being caught...they went on a mission that didnt go as planned...gee has that ever happened in anything but 99% of the comics we read?

Those stupid X-Men...they tried to stop a demon invasion but it was tougher then they though...they helping the skrulls as well?

> > > > > To make this kind of argument you have to look at when they FIRST started infiltrating...and when was that? After Galactus ate their homeworld...guess what? That was your "old way/system".
> > > > Yeah, but one of the top three people in charge of your "new system" is a Skrull. And the other two were the idiots whose screwup enabled the Skrulls to become undetectable.Now we've got a Skrull in every state. Moreover, Tony's actions divided the heroes and made them hate each other.
> > > > Michael
> > >
> > > Um, no, that was Cap's actions which divided the heroes not Tony (who has twice managed to unify all the heroes, both during World War Hulk and now, for Secret Invasion). Besides, we don't KNOW that it was the Illuminati (including Tony and Reed) that allowed the skrulls to become undetectable, not for certain.
> > Cap only started resisting the SHRA violently when the supporters tried to arrest him for a hypothetical statement during a conversation. And yes, we do KNOW that it was the Illuminati that allowed the Skrulls to become undetectable. Bendis devoted an entire issue of New Avengers to explaining it.
>
> They didnt allow them to become undetectable at all...thats a silly argument. Heroes get captured ALL the time...this time the skrulls did some delving afterwards...you cant blame them for being caught...they went on a mission that didnt go as planned...gee has that ever happened in anything but 99% of the comics we read?
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> Those stupid X-Men...they tried to stop a demon invasion but it was tougher then they though...they helping the skrulls as well?
I might be able to accept this argument if Tony hadn't blamed the Stanford debacle on the Warriors and used this to drum up support for the SHRA. In any case, there was no need to attack the Skrulls. It just made things worse.
Michael


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