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MysteryMan

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SourceMole

Subj: Except...
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 02:42:16 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Sorry it is in continuity....
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:18:53 pm EDT

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> > > > > > You're missing the point. A unified organization is easier to infiltrate than several seperate ones. Not only that, the "several seperate organizations" model has worked in the MU for years, against everyone from Wraiths to Surtur to the Beyonder.
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> > > > > ***Tell that to the parents at Stamford...
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> > > > Which, as has been noted, is only a big deal because of the fact the story keeps insisting it is, and one of the worst bits of media manipulation I've ever seen depicted (Blaming the NW, rather than Nitro, the guy who actually consciously triggered the explosion). The MU has seen everything from entire countries being decimated by magic, to the devastation on the USA wrought by Kang's invasion. Stanford is a tragedy, but it's not THAT special a tragedy to the average MU person.
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> > > > >or that kid Freedom Ring...who would have been an awesome hero had he gotten proper training under something like the SHRA.
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> > > > As might MVP and everyone killed my KIA had it NOT been for the SHRA.
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> > > ALmost ALL superheroes would be dead if not for the SHRA...it's called Project Wideawake.
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> > and how exactly did this become set in stone? project wideawake has been around a long time to exterminate mutants and yet we all know that has not happened. and please dont tell me that because tony says that this will happen and that because he is a futurist it will definitely happen. thats a load of.... *gah*
> > and also please no because the watcher saw what would happen. Uatu sees possible futures and divergent timelines. not everything he sees comes to pass
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> Uatu arrives at Caps grave where Tony still is long after the service mourbing Steve. He shows him what would have happened had he failed to champion SHRA, and what would have happened had he done a better job of it.
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not buying this what "would" have happened thing. it was in my opinion a what "could" have happened thing.

> This is in 616, and shows Tony he was right to champion the SHRA cause...it also shows that he could have done it better. i.e. he made thinsg better, but he could have done it in a much better way.

i agree with you that definitely he could have done it better

> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're missing the point. A unified organization is easier to infiltrate than several seperate ones. Not only that, the "several seperate organizations" model has worked in the MU for years, against everyone from Wraiths to Surtur to the Beyonder.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ***Tell that to the parents at Stamford...
> > > > >
> > > > > Which, as has been noted, is only a big deal because of the fact the story keeps insisting it is, and one of the worst bits of media manipulation I've ever seen depicted (Blaming the NW, rather than Nitro, the guy who actually consciously triggered the explosion). The MU has seen everything from entire countries being decimated by magic, to the devastation on the USA wrought by Kang's invasion. Stanford is a tragedy, but it's not THAT special a tragedy to the average MU person.
> > > > >
> > > > > >or that kid Freedom Ring...who would have been an awesome hero had he gotten proper training under something like the SHRA.
> > > > >
> > > > > As might MVP and everyone killed my KIA had it NOT been for the SHRA.
> > > >
> > > > ALmost ALL superheroes would be dead if not for the SHRA...it's called Project Wideawake.
> > >
> > > and how exactly did this become set in stone? project wideawake has been around a long time to exterminate mutants and yet we all know that has not happened. and please dont tell me that because tony says that this will happen and that because he is a futurist it will definitely happen. thats a load of.... *gah*
> > > and also please no because the watcher saw what would happen. Uatu sees possible futures and divergent timelines. not everything he sees comes to pass
> >
> > Uatu arrives at Caps grave where Tony still is long after the service mourbing Steve. He shows him what would have happened had he failed to champion SHRA, and what would have happened had he done a better job of it.
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> not buying this what "would" have happened thing. it was in my opinion a what "could" have happened thing.

After the 1st one Tony goes...so it looks like I made the right choice then, that I was right all along.

The Watcher basically says...sure...but look how much better it would have gone had you....

> > This is in 616, and shows Tony he was right to champion the SHRA cause...it also shows that he could have done it better. i.e. he made thinsg better, but he could have done it in a much better way.
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> i agree with you that definitely he could have done it better

...which makes the story all the more poignant as Tony realizes...had he just done things a little better, his best friend woudl still eb alive and everythign he was trying for "would have happened".


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