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Corn

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Jared

Subj: Re: Cult followings and the characters you wish were still around...
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 at 07:40:44 pm EST (Viewed 78 times)
Reply Subj: Cult followings and the characters you wish were still around...
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 at 02:41:28 am EST (Viewed 137 times)


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> I arrived rather late to the Spider-Girl party, so I can't really call myself a hardcore fan, but right now it's one of the only two Marvel titles I find worth reading besides Spider-Man. The rest of the titles are, in my view, tainted by the stink of the Superhuman Registration Act, a violation of the most fundamental aspects of the Marvel Universe and an abomination of an idea so sickening that it poisons the whole Marvel Universe by its very presence and doesn't deserve to be called "groundbreaking" anymore than the work of Rob Liefeld and I think Millar and Bendis are overrated hacks and I could have pulled a better resolution out of my hairy...

SPIDERGIRL is DeFalco's best. I was never a fan of his THOR or FF.

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> As I was about to say before my blind hatred of the SHRA got me sidetracked, I feel for the diehard Spider-Girl fans who are upset that their series is being cancelled due to low sales. It's a sad reality, but one I can't entirely blame Marvel for, since at the end of the day they have to make business decisions that aren't always pleasant.

It hit #100. That's saying something. It's little compensation, naturally.

> As I'm sure most people have noticed, I'm a diehard fan of Sleepwalker,

Check.

> ....who-and I swear I'm not making this up-was in fact the character that brought me back into comics and superheroes after almost a decade and a half-long absence. Like Dan Slott, I don't think Bob Budiansky ever got the respect he deserved for one of the most criminally underrated series Marvel has ever published, and that it's a shame no other writers have ever used any of Budiansky's creations, aside from Sleepwalker himself and 8-Ball. But, again, Sleepwalker's title wasn't selling enough, so it had to go.

I still haven't found one to sample. Is MS MARVEL the other Marvel comic you get?

> Which characters do you miss, as a part of the cult following that enjoyed their adventures and would be happy to see them brought back? For me, those three heroes are Sleepwalker (naturally), Darkhawk and Spider-Girl.

Quasar - though NOVA is seeing to the continued career on Wendell Vaughn. I thought QUASAR was a great book (at least in the writing dept.) kept alive with increasingly frequent and interrupting crossovers - and art that seemed to get suckier just about every issue.

NOVA is one of the finest of MU books these days, and ideal for bringing back folk like - will you look at that? - Darkhawk, the Serpent Society, Wendell Vaughn... I hope it's blasted sales improve!

> Bob Budiansky, Danny Fingeroth and Tom DeFalco weren't Alan Moore, Jack Kirby or Frank Miller, but they didn't need to be, contributing fantastic bread-and-butter stories that remain enjoyable to read whether it's the first or hundred and first time. They left the Marvel Universe stronger than they left it...unlike Messrs. Millar, Bendis and Strazcynski, who are collectively in the process of leaving the artistic equivalent of a giant steaming pile on the MU.

I like JMS' THOR - and TWELVE - but not his SPIDERMAN or FF.

> Post the cult following characters you love, and more particularly what you loved about them. I'm especially interested in seeing just WHY fans love otherwise obscure characters.

Well, Quasar was sort of marginalised in the 90's - a book with all its old fashioned points stood out like a throbbing sore thumb, and couldn't distinguish itself quite the way Waid's CAPTAIN AMERICA and FLASH did in that blood-on-the-floor age of Big Guns and Bigger Breasts. QUASAR had little or no luck with artists once Greg Capullo found a market drawing SPAWN... Mark Gruenwald seemed to enjoy writing QUASAR as though it was a DC book coming out of Marvel. Barry Allen from DC appeared - of course he had the name Buried Alien.

Other obscure characters I enjoy: they prolly have a cult following of zip...

Darkoth, Razor-Fist, Brynocki, the Prime Mover, Nekra... But these are villains.

I really enjoyed Mantis in the 70's when she was... unexplained. A bit like Elektra in DD and the Black Orchid at DC. Since she's been Cotati-green and "powered", she hasn't seemed even half as intriguing. Still, I look forward to picking up GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY - which has another dwindled-to-a-cult star, Adam Warlock.

From the 70's: Jack of Hearts, White Tiger, Man-Thing, Howard the Duck, Shang-Chi, WBN Werewolf, Dracula for some more...

Hopefully Dracula's CAPTAIN BRITAIN appearance will rival his last decent appearance in the pages of DOCTOR STRANGE (by Roger Stern, Dan Green and Terry Austin.)

Cornelius
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Reading: Just about ready to kiss the delightful SUPERGIRL SHOWCASE vol. 2 goodbye and wait for the next one. After reading AVENGERS VS JLA, I've been enthused into tackling AVENGERS ESSENTIALS vol. 4 (by Roy Thomas and with the Kree/Skrull War, Squadron Sinister and Squadron Supreme) again and the early Jim Shooter AVENGERS (approx. #155-168) issues with Nefaria, Graviton, Ultron and the Grim Reaper, drawn by John Byrne in his prime, Perez and Sal Buscema. Also: USE OF WEAPONS by Iain Banks.
Listening: Flamenco. It's sitting in the computer by chance and there's no reason to dig it out yet.
Flicks: SUPERMAN RETURNS.
Doco: THE FOG OF WAR. Watched it about twelve times now.





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