Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Subj: Re: Heh, Mantlo's...
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 at 07:13:37 am EDT (Viewed 153 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Mark Waid's Hulk #2 - The Case for Narration...?
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 at 09:03:05 pm EDT (Viewed 302 times)

> Last issue of this relaunched title delivered a fine first opening chapter and promised a very different direction
> #2, not terrible, just not great
Yes. However, to quibble, for me it was better than the premiere which was jarring instant new status quo (like done with that horrible explosion that 'killed' Banner but not Hulk in the last volume trying for reader investment).

> --A mysterious agency has an agent inside SHIELD who delivered precision shots into the back of Bruce Banner's head
> --(a Doctor and 'Nurse') to serve as Banners support and a point of reference
> --with Banner damaged and now invalided the Hulk himself would naturally become more prominent in the narrative,
> Except, with issue #2's arrival, none of these things occur.
> --We've seen The Hulk is capable of speech from the previous issue, so why has he nothing to say here?!
So true.

> Reading issue 2 the basic elements of the plot which is unfolding are all perfectly fine. We see all the familiar staples of the Incredible Hulk's long history present --
> --But even with the superb Mark Bagley illustrating, little of it has any feeling or passion. Why...?
This installment probably would have been a lot more compelling back in the first volume of IH without so much iconic precident factoring in the back of your head while reading it. Still, a more agreeable read than, say, the 6 Avengers books out this week. However, a chronological connection better be established ASAP for BOTH franchises sake. Does anyone know for sure if this is before the strong Banner portrayal in New Avengers #17?

> Last Issue I noted the similarities to the final two years of Bill Mantlo's time on the character, like Waid Mantlo removed Bruce Banner from the series and leaving the book
> --It was as much a response to the changing audience as it was necessity, but Bill Mantlo was resorting to a convention that was actually very popular and immensely successful in doing this.
Yours is a nice review and it was this very cool Mantlo comparison you note that prompted a comment on this. I remember dropping Incredible from 302 'til Byrne took over because of the disliked new direction and change in art scene... which seems sort of hypocritical in hindsight with the hope of potential in this relaunch. Then again, 65¢ was a lot of money to throw away at the spinner rack every month on something that wasn't going to be a sure thing - like, say, Mantlo's wonderful ROM had been.

> Character walk onto panel with barely an introduction, the location shifts between pages and it is left to the reader to work out where they are now.
Hate that.

> The star of the issue is unquestionably Mark Bagley.
Enjoyed the art (and coloring too) a lot.

> on the other though since the Hulk seems unimpaired by Banners injury - is this perhaps a hint of Banner's shocked psyche being replaced by one of his other 'selves'...?

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