Dave Galanter
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Iron Man Unit 007

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Subj: Re: I hate Genis
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 03:43:02 pm EDT (Viewed 279 times)
Reply Subj: I hate Genis
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 09:19:31 am EDT (Viewed 271 times)

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    Thank you. That was insightful and a good romp through Marvel history.

    Am I the only one that enjoyed the Genis-Vell PD stuff?
    I wasn't in love with it, but it was fun.

I hate Genis's origin. Being created by Elysius from Marv's sperm after he's dead and then his childhood is stolen from him by his mother who artificially ages him to adulthood to protect her sorry ass. Hate hate hate it.

I was fine with PAD's Genis stuff. Except the storyline where we're shown Genis will murder his son Ely with Songbird while he's an infant.

At some point Genis started to infringe on my love for the Thunderbolts. First there was his romance with Songbird in Avengers Forever thus signaling that Songbird and Mach-1 (a romance I liked) was doomed to failure. Then Nicieza added him to the Thunderbolts. At that point I needed him dead. I didn't want him anywhere near the Thunderbolts. He wasn't a former villain (ok he was crazy for a while...not a professional villain).

I cackled with glee when my favorite character Helmut Zemo was the one to kill him because by that point I had come to really hate Genis.

    Anyone else remember the Captain Marvel message board? And how we wanted to grab pitch forks over Skrull-Vell? Good times, or whatever is the opposite of it.

Well Elysius and Marv had talked of starting a family before his illness flared up and killed him.

So by using his genetic material and hers to conceive and carry Genis to term was her way of honoring him and his memory.

As to the aging him to adulthood and fake childhood memories, I think we can thank Mentor for that as he reasoned that if any of Marv's enemies learned that he had any offspring they would be in danger.

Case in point: Ronan the Accuser. He can be pretty mule headed at times and upon learning Genis is the son of Mar-Vell and since Ronan never was able to beat Marv he transfers all of Marv's alleged crimes and guilt to Genis to justify fighting him.

Also is what Elysius did to conceive Genis really any more gross or creepy then a couple going to a sperm bank, regardless of whether the donor still lives or not?

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