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Subj: Re: Sorry Guys, But Marvel Is NOT Ruining Your Favorite Characters, Or Any Characters.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 at 08:36:11 am EDT (Viewed 378 times)
Reply Subj: Sorry Guys, But Marvel Is NOT Ruining Your Favorite Characters, Or Any Characters.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 at 08:33:56 pm EDT (Viewed 431 times)

    I feel that this post is appropriate given some of the posts that I read below about Marvel "Ruining." their characters, and I feel that people are going overboard. Either that, or they don't understand the nature of superhero comics. Remember when people thought that Hal Jordan was ruined? Well, after some time they brought him back and blamed it on him being controlled. Remember when people thought that Magneto was ruined during Grant Morrison's Planet X arc? That wasn't really him, that was an imposter (How did he survive being decapitated, by the way?). Scarlet Witch after Disassembled and House Of M? That was all Doctor Doom's fault. Remember Teen Tony? Cassandra Cain? The list goes on. It sounds like people just don't like the current direction or stories, but to say that the characters are ruined is just laughable (And wrong.). Any of these changes can (And will at some point.) be reversed, retconned or undone. Comics are cyclical. Logan and The Hulk are dead? They can come back. Characters have been getting killed and replaced since, when, the 70's? Everything will go back to the status quo (Because it is god.) after some time. But very few characters can actually count or qualify as being ruined. Okay, other than Gwen Stacy if Sins Past still counts. THAT I can't see being washed away, but just never mention it again. I also don't understand Hawkman or Cable, or a few other X-characters. But this is just how ongoing serial superhero fiction works.

Your list of previous ruinations that were fixed doesn't apply here until the current situations are fixed in the same way. Until such time as they are fixed, the characters are in a state of ruin.

Logan being dead isn't the ruined state. He was ruined before he was dead. Bringing him back just might be ruining him.

Tony has been ruined since CW1.
Carol has continued her ruination into the present.
Spidey will be ruined until the marriage is retroactively restored.
Thor is extremely ruined. Mjolnir as a concept is ruined. And they seem to be progressing the ruin each month.

But yeah, there's always hope.

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