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Comicguy1

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Subj: Re: Those Characters Are Not Destroyed. And What Happened With The Thunderbolts?
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 09:11:40 pm EST (Viewed 168 times)

Reply Subj: Re: Talented writer: who's damage out weigh his contribution
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 07:58:22 am EST (Viewed 183 times)

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His street-level work was good (Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Miles Morales) but as soon as they gave him the keys to the 616 Universe, things went bad. And the list of characters he burned to the ground or completely sold out and the continuity he completely dumped on or just flat out ignored is unforgivable. His good work pales in comparison to the damage he has done.

Here are just a few of the character he "jobbed", never liked, never understood or flat out destroyed: (this is just a few, feel free to add more)

Nova (Richard Rider)
Scarlet Witch
WonderMan
Wasp
She-Hulk
Hawkeye
Captain America
Iron Man
War Machine
Vision
Beast (as an Avenger & Xmen)
Wolverine (as an Avenger)
Namor
Hank Pym
Scott Lang
Ms./Capt. Marvel
Spiderman 616
Dr. Strange
The Fantastic Four
The whole of the X-Men Universe
The whole of the Guardians of the Galaxy
The concept of the Thunderbolts

I did a big post on this here before, but very few characters in ongoing fiction can be destroyed or ruined forever. Those sound like changes or stories that you didn't like. Also, what did he do to or with the Thunderbolts? To my knowledge, he never even touched the book.

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- The good and the bad · Unstable Molecule · Mon Nov 20, 2017 at 01:22:11 pm EST
- I don't like "WTF" moments - many fans do. · America's Captain · Sun Nov 19, 2017 at 10:57:20 am EST
- Re: I Think That Bendis Was Great For The Marvel Universe, Is Anyone Going To Miss Him? And This Does NOT Mean The End For Marvel. · John Morrissey · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 08:06:57 pm EST
- I never liked him much... · bd2999 · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 09:21:52 am EST
- Talented writer. I don't like a lot of his ideas (especially, I hate what he did to Scarlet Witch in Avengers Disassembled) but some of his stories are very good. (no text) · Grey Gargoyle (for example, in Ultimate Spider-Man & Daredevil) · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 04:11:40 am EST
  - Re: Talented writer: who's damage out weigh his contribution · The Voice of Reason · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 07:58:22 am EST
    - Re: Those Characters Are Not Destroyed. And What Happened With The Thunderbolts? · Comicguy1 · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 09:11:40 pm EST
    - Re: Talented writer: who's damage out weigh his contribution · Reverend Meteor · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 08:42:13 am EST
      - Re: Talented writer: who's damage out weigh his contribution · USAgentfan · Sat Nov 25, 2017 at 10:20:19 am EST
      - Re: Talented writer: who's damage out weigh his contribution · The Voice of Reason · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 03:58:20 pm EST
- Re: He loved HIS characters · The Voice of Reason · Thu Nov 16, 2017 at 06:37:32 pm EST
  - Re: They're Not HIS Characters. · Comicguy1 · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 09:16:20 pm EST
  - Re: He loved HIS characters · Reverend Meteor · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 08:46:00 am EST
  - Re: He loved HIS characters · The Black Guardian · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 08:00:13 am EST
    - Re: Right. If He Hated Them, I Guess That Claremont And Byrne Hated Jean Grey. (no text) · Comicguy1 · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 09:18:02 pm EST
    - Re: He loved HIS characters · Reverend Meteor · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 08:38:12 am EST
      - After this Reverend Meteor can no longer require me not to respond to his outbursts (no text) · Menshevik · Sat Nov 18, 2017 at 03:48:02 am EST
      - Re: He loved HIS characters · The Black Guardian · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 01:30:31 pm EST
        
        Re: He loved HIS characters · Reverend Meteor · Mon Nov 20, 2017 at 12:33:41 pm EST
        Re: He loved HIS characters · The Voice of Reason · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 04:16:49 pm EST
        
        Re: He loved HIS characters · The Black Guardian · Sat Nov 18, 2017 at 08:57:09 am EST
        
        Re: He loved HIS characters · Reverend Meteor · Mon Nov 20, 2017 at 12:30:18 pm EST
- I'm sorta ambivalent. · The Black Guardian · Thu Nov 16, 2017 at 03:48:09 pm EST
- Great news for Marvel. He was the worst. nnt · Reverend Meteor · Thu Nov 16, 2017 at 02:47:29 pm EST
  - I definitely won't go that far... · The Black Guardian · Thu Nov 16, 2017 at 03:56:57 pm EST
    - Re: I definitely won't go that far... · Menshevik · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 11:42:02 am EST
    - Re: I definitely won't go that far... · America's Captain · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 10:44:54 am EST
    - Re: I definitely won't go that far... · Reverend Meteor · Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 08:37:09 am EST