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Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 at 04:26:37 pm EST (Viewed 330 times)
Reply Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 at 03:02:32 pm EST (Viewed 357 times)
Quote:More like removing a foreign object. That was the awesome Roger Stern era Avengers.
Quote:Bah. A great big Victor Von Doom "Bah!"
Quote:Someone could remove your eye very easily. Does that make it a foreign object? Roger Stern might say so, I guess.
I don't think that's fair to say.
Stern already had the Englehart retcon of Vision being the Human Torch to work with but this was before the Byrne retconning of that retcon.
So at that point time I think it would safe to say Phineas Horton did most of the reformatting of Human Torch into Vision as stated in Avengers #135 but one of Ultron's contribution was this control chip...which was neither a part of Jim when Phineas originally created him or when Phineas reformatted him into the Vision per Ultron's threats. I would say the control chip was something Phineas wouldn't have created and it just wasn't his tech.
And it is logical that Ultron did have a control device installed in Vision per Avengers #66 when Ultron controls Vision to steal the adamantium.
Vision is a heavily retconned character (just like his ex wife) so you have to take into account where he was at retcon wise when you analyze his history