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D. Strange

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Subj: What confuses me is...
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 at 07:12:55 am EST (Viewed 54 times)
Reply Subj: Re: How "relevant" do you want your comics?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 at 09:35:33 pm EST (Viewed 63 times)

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    To put it bluntly, nobody appointed you the censor of my reading matter. You're not THE paying customer, you one of several (potential) paying customers, and as an individual you and I pay too little. It might be different for us if we had enough money to commission an artistic team to write and draw the kind of story we like. Until that happens, if you don't like a certain writer's output the only solution open to you is to stop buying it, not to ask for the creation of a new Comics Code to impose your idiosyncratic tastes on other readers who don't share them. I mean, you're asking for comics to be so bowdlerized in some respects that they'll be less "relevant" than fairy tales (just think of how many of those feature e.g. child abuse).


Well, I'll make the obvious statement that talking about what we do or don't want isn't the same as calling for censorship. Certainly we can (and in my opinion should) stop buying any comic that displeases us. I do it all the time, sometimes for the most trivial of reasons.

What's interesting (to me) is the idea that superhero comics that center around things like Spider-Man stopping bank robberies would be bowdlerized if they didn't feature things like child abuse. I can see there's a level of soap opera that some of us want in comics while others of us (or at least I) don't. It also interests me (and frankly just occurred to me) that I don't watch TV shows or movies that delve into that level of soap opera. So really I'm just not a fan of that type of story in any medium. The exception would be vengeance tales. Those I like.






The term "soap opera" doesn't tend to be associated with 'relevance' in storytelling. It has more of a history of being connected to personal entanglements and relationships. Sort of a drawn out drama or melodrama.

Which, to me, makes your usage of Spider-Man perplexing. The soap opera aspects that Stan Lee injected are usually cited as the thing that truly helps define the character.

And with the advent of binge watching shows, the idea of soap opera elements become more and more pushed in fiction to get people to watch. So, I would take it you don't partake in say Netflix's Daredevil... since those elements were transferred to some degree from the comics.

Which is of course, perfectly fine. Though, that does leave me curious as to what you do watch, since that not only dominates most popular shows (even sitcoms, ever since Cheers) but also i lesser watched shows.

Even shows of teh past like Star Trek or the Twilight Zone, may not have drawn it out,but were no stranger to personal melodrama for characters.

But the REALLY odd thing, is that I recall you championing AMERICA.

Now, I only read one issue, so I am hardly an expert, and I was no fan of it, but it seemed that between her girlfriend woes and familial issues, there was plenty of 'soap opera.'

There was also was seemingly social commentary. Not very good or well written in my opinion (that is just my opinion, feel free to have yours), which would tie it into the question of 'relevance.'

I would be fascinated to know how these different cogs fit in your head. and I know that sometimes typed thing can come off wring on the internet, I do not mean that to sound aggressive or sarcastc. I am genuinely interested.


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