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Silver Surfer

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Subj: Re: Endgame : new trailer
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 06:47:54 pm EDT (Viewed 34 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Endgame : new trailer
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 at 02:16:15 pm EDT (Viewed 37 times)



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    it would just leave a bad taste in the audience's mouth going forward.


So?

Killing off a man it the mind of a child in "Of Mice and Men." left a bad taste in my mouth, that doesn't mean it was the wrong option.



Look slick, I don;t watch Game of Thrones so I only have a cursory knowledge of what the Hell you are talking about. So, shrug I guess to what you are talking about.


The reasons why the O.G. Avengers should die are simple.

First, this is the end to 22 movies (or some such none sense), so it has to have a large payoff, and there has to be a lasting change, given all of the foreshadow to the event.

Also for a sense of symmetry to the story. Thanos in Infinity War sacrificed who he "loved" the most, without them volunteering.

Without a sacrifice of there own they are lacking on conviction on comparison to the villain. The villain is more driven, and willing to give more than the heroes? WEAK STORYTELLING.

Them giving their own lives to save billions... or trillions... or however many sentient beings in the unvierse.

here as Thanos only sacrificed a loved else for his goals, they sac rice themselves for their loved ones.

Then there are the personal journeys of Thor and Iron Man. Iron Man has been to be less selfish and Thor more responsible. Both having an ultimate culmination... thus far. King and surrogate father (Tony to Peter Parker).

Both of which SHOULD surpass that narrative in the final phase. The only place to go for either is sacrifice. And are common narrative tools for those archetypes showing the ultimate love and compassion for their cild//subjects.

Steve's sacrifice would add symmetry to the first film (and chronologically first MCU story). Not to mention his story disillusionment, a sacrifice for a higher purpose then even he had when he sacrificed himself in WWII (Against a more powerful threat, and larger death toll) only makes sense. Especially if he actually dies this time around.

AS the story progresses, since they have said it is one long chapter the stakes have to get higher, and the heroes have to give more of themselves.

IF they are just back and retire it doesn't work out as well. All of their real sacrifice and challenge came earlier. Thor lost his home and Cap lost his way and certainty.


Iron Man ALREADY has problems with backsliding in Avengers 2 and Captain America 3 after he quit in Iron Man 3.

And epic ending has to have epic consequences.


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