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Subj: Re: ENDGAME!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 at 12:04:18 pm EDT (Viewed 121 times)
Reply Subj: Re: ENDGAME!
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 at 10:46:17 pm EDT (Viewed 140 times)



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    I enjoyed this movie a lot too. I like Infinity War better of the two movies, but this one was still great.


I actually can't decide if I liked Infinity War better. I think Infinity War benefited from being the initial presentation of a lot of things that were taken for granted in Endgame.


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    I'd rather the Fantastic Four just come forth in this, the original MCU timeline.


That's probably best, I agree.

Marvel Studios has its work cut out for it where the FF are concerned. What made the FF comic so great were all those amazing Lee/Kirby concepts that originated in its pages. At this point in the MCU, we've seen so much that our sense of wonder will be hard to trigger. Even Galactus will seem ho hum. I don't know how Marvel Studios will do the FF justice at this point.


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    I'm hoping we don't see too many stories of alternate timelines and alternate characters. The comics often get too bogged down in that kind of stuff as it is.


Even the X-Men movies have.


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    Yeah, I liked that ending for Steve and Peggy too. I wish it wasn't an alternate timeline Peggy though.


I just wish we could see more of Peggy Carter. I loved her TV show. It was cool that we got to see Jarvis. Too bad the Howard Stark character was played by a different actor than in the TV show.


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    Very bittersweet ending for Tony. Such a powerful ending for the character, but I still can't help but wish he could have lived to see his daughter grow up. I can't believe how much these movies and Robert Downey Jr made me care about Iron Man of all characters. I've certainly never been much of a fan of the comic version.


If comic book Tony Stark had been written like movie Tony Stark, I think comic book Tony would have been more compelling to more people.


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      The biggest surprise in the whole movie, for me, was Thor's beer belly! OMG!


    Yep, that really surprised me too! I'm glad I went into this movie spoiler free. Still, while I enjoyed that moment(and his fight with the kid over the headphones) and the humor related to it throughout the movie, I feel like Thor was let down a bit in this movie compared to where his story arc seemed to be headed in Thor: Ragnarok and Avengers: Infinity War. I loved the scene with Frigga and I'm pretty happy where they left Thor at the end of movie(especially if he is in GotG Vol. 3), but I still feel like they could have given him a bigger moment to show that he had recovered his self-esteem and drive to be a hero again.


I think his self-esteem has taken quite a hit. Thor 4, if it gets made, will need to be a redemption tale.

Hmm. Thor 4. Interesting number. Fantastic, you might say.


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    Him and Hulk both seemed to become almost after thoughts towards the last third of the movie.


At least the Hulk did the snap.


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      Nebula has had a riveting story arc that still is going strong. She is easily the most interesting character in the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise, overshadowing even Rocket Raccoon. I can't think of any Marvel character I'm rooting more strongly for than Nebula.


    Wow, she's the character your most interested in the GotG!? I like her and enjoyed her arc in this movie, but I find pretty much all the GotG characters more interesting than her.


For me, Quill, Groot, Rocket, Drax, and Mantis are all comic relief. Very entertaining comic relief, don't get me wrong. Gamora and Nebula pretty much carried the drama of the films. I know Quill was having all this emotional stuff, supposedly, but the actor just never made me feel it.


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      Captain Marvel was tremendous. See why I said she was Marvel's Superman? I was surprised yet moved by the scene near the end, where all the heroes who stood up to join her were women. What a girl power moment! And it cements in everyone's minds what Captain Marvel means to the MCU. She is the great central rallying point for girl power. Not to mention the fact that her movie has joined the billion dollar club.


    I was a tiny bit disappointed in her role in this movie. I loved her in the Captain Marvel movie and I enjoyed her part in the beginning of this movie, but didn't enjoy her later part where she was just fighting as much. I would much rather she had more interaction and conversations with the other characters. Especially the characters like Cap and Tony that are now pretty much gone from the franchise.


I actually wonder if Captain Marvel will even be in the next Avengers film. There was a definite idea being presented in Endgame that Captain Marvel's obligations extend beyond Earth. Will the MCU Avengers continue to face extra-terrestrial threats?

I keep wondering where in the world Marvel Studios will go from here, post-Endgame. Maybe I should start that thread.


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    Yep, that was awesome! Ugh, it was just so frustrating, too many people had a big score to settle with Thanos(Thor, Iron Man, Starlord, Nebula, Scarlet Witch, Hulk, etc) and so few really got to have a good moment against him in the final fight.


I think everyone you name had a part in defeating Thanos, although admittedly Starlord was just one more guy shooting at bad guys in the big battle scene. If I were to pinpoint a main character who was underrepresented in the film, it was Starlord.


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    Now, some of my thoughts on the movie-



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    It is a great finale and ending for the founding characters of this universe and the films preceding it. The only character of the original Avengers that I feel was let down a bit was Hulk, but even he got to the big moment to reverse the snap.


Reversing the snap was huge in my opinion. He also obtained the Time Stone and did it not with his fists but by talking. He also presented us with a persona that we had never seen before.


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    I know most of the focus was on the original Avengers members and there was a ton of character moments packed into this 3 hour movie, but I still wish there had been even more character interaction between all the different heroes. I really wanted to see some of the characters like Captain Marvel, Wasp, and Valkyrie to interact more with the likes of Cap, Thor, and Iron Man.


Well, there was one quick little moment between the two Caps. Steve referrred to Captain Marvel as Danvers when speaking to her remotely. A small thing, right? Yet so perfectly in character.

Maybe the next Captain Marvel film will feature such characters as the Wasp, the Valkyrie, or Shuri.

But yes, this epic was so huge that Marvel could reasonably have made a third movie out of it. I wonder if they ever considered that. I guess Robert Downey Junior would have nixed that idea.


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    I have to say, I am super bummed about Gamora. At least Black Widow's sacrifice helped save the day. Gamora didn't even get that. She's probably my favorite of the Guardians and I was really hoping they would bring her back to life as well. I'm still hoping they somehow save the original Gamora from the Soul Stone in GotG 3. I have no interest in a Gamora that has none of the memories of the original. The Guardians of the Galaxy formed a family and the original Gamora was a big part of that. Without those shared experiences it's just not the same. The only way I can get behind this is if somehow this younger, other timeline Gamora sacrifices herself to bring back the original.


I think you may be onto something.






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