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Superman's Pal

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Subj: Re: New banner! Thanks Superman's Pal! Who was reading DARK HORSE in the 80s and 90s?
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 at 01:37:08 am EDT (Viewed 3 times)
Reply Subj: New banner! Thanks Superman's Pal! Who was reading DARK HORSE in the 80s and 90s?
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 at 04:30:37 am EDT (Viewed 157 times)

    Dark Horse was founded in 1986 and is still going strong. Were you aware of it back in the 80s and 90s? Did you read any Dark Horse comics?

I read quite a few. I started with Aliens and Predator. Then The Thing and Terminator. I don't usually find comic sequels to movies or tv series that effective but these were good. Sometimes with great painted art. It was funny to see scenes or themes from these books pop up in later film sequels. I think the production lead time on the movies was such that neither could be a swipe, just happy accidents?

Alien Vs Predator was surprisingly effective in the comics. They later did a bunch of video games on the subject and finally, probably 15 years later did the movies which were a letdown. But they really drove their franchises into the ground.

From there I remember discovering Black Cross and Sin City via their anthology Dark Horse Presents. Then I found The Mask and Give Me Liberty. When they came up with Comics' Greatest World, their answer to superhero universes, I thought it sounded like a great idea but none of the ones I read really grabbed me.

I guess I eventually drifted away from everything but Sin City and Hellboy. I had a lot of fun along the way.

    I dabbled in Dark Horse. Occasionally I would read Concrete or Tank Girl. I thought it was cool when Dark Horse got the Star Wars license in 1991, yet I never really followed any of their Star Wars titles until the 21st century. For some reason Hellboy never appealed to me, which is weird, since demons and such are usually right up my alley.

    As I ponder Hellboy now, I think my lack of interest flowed from him being sort of a Thing (Ben Grimm) character. When I think of books about demons, I think of Constantine and Son of Satan, both of whom are more along the lines of a dark Reed Richards. Not scientific geniuses, but cerebral. Actually, I guess a dark Reed Richards is almost the definition of Victor Von Doom, and I certainly see Constantine and Hellstrom as vibrating on the Von Doom spectrum, though neither has ever attempted to rule the world, and in fact both make forays into heroism. I guess what I'm saying is, a Von Doom on the path of redemption, a Von Doom who was trying to make amends, would probably be pretty similar to Constantine or Son of Satan.

I suppose I like the Grimm type. Although I can understand your liking of Doom and Constantine, I figure those guys already had that angle covered.

Who can name all the characters on our new banner?

I can.

    Looking at the banner, I notice Martha Washington, and I'm pleasantly reminded that I did in fact read Frank Miller's first Martha Washington graphic novel. I liked it.

He did several follow ups and I thought it was a case of diminshing returns. Give Me Liberty was the best.

    Do you think Dark Horse may have suffered due to pretty much never trying to publish a long-term ongoing series? I think if Concrete, Tank Girl, and Martha Washington had been long-term ongoing books, I might have committed to them in the way I'll commit to, say, Batman.

I think the whole indie mindset usually publishing smaller, more personal stories. That kind of goes against big interlocking universes. Hellboy has pretty much continued on forever.

    Do you think Dark Horse may have suffered due to not having a single, cohesive universe? I know a lot of fans commit to a comic book universe first, and then, secondarily, to particular books in that universe. For example, there are many X-fans whose first commitment is to the X-universe as a whole, and only secondarily to any particular X-book. If it were possible for Hellboy, Tank Girl, Concrete, and Martha Washington to meet and have adventures together, would this have increased the overall popularity of Dark Horse?

Saleswise, maybe. I don't know, they tried the superhero line and I don't think it did much business. The creators were free to cross over with each other when they wanted. Sometimes they would meet up in DHP. I think Martha Washington met a few other characters.

Probably their strength was not trying to do what Marvel and DC were doing.


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